S.A.F.C. - the future

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Luckily, I doubt anyone pays much attention to the missives from a fringe group, who feel the need to make conditions in this way.

The whole point about supporting a football team is that, at least until they sicken you off and stop, you do so unconditionally.
 
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Aye as I've said mate, I don't think it's words that RAWA are talking about, all of the above is exactly the right things we should be doing. I think they're hoping to see it in action.

I'm pretty sure the owner will share that hope mate ...

... I just don't believe he needs it spelled out to him, that's all.

IMO there was no need for a statement at all, the Sunderland supporters will welcome him, that's what we do.
 
I'm pretty sure the owner will share that hope mate ...

... I just don't believe he needs it spelled out to him, that's all.

IMO there was no need for a statement at all, the Sunderland supporters will welcome him, that's what we do.

I agree with that tbf. There is a thing with statements at the minute, RR done one the other day to clarify their position on Donald, and it felt very self important. I think with RAWA they're supposed to be our "reps" so it's different, but nobody would have been upset if they'd not said anything.
 
Doesn't this answer the concerns you've outlined, what more can he possibly say?


"Kristjaan Speakman is SAFC’s new Sporting Director. The 41-year-old arrives from Birmingham City and a club statement says he will “take primary responsibility for reviewing and implementing new strategies to develop the club’s footballing infrastructure, with an emphasis on data analytics and innovation, and providing a clear pathway from the younger age groups to the first team.”

Speaking of the appointment, Speakman said: “I have been tasked with delivering a best-in-class player development model from the academy through to the senior squad and given a realistic timeframe and budget with which to do so. It is an absolute honour to have been invited to do this at one of England’s biggest clubs. The blueprint for the future and the ambition to create a sustainable structure with a clear identity is one I will work diligently and passionately to bring to fruition for Sunderland fans. I’m grateful for the autonomy granted me by the ownership group to pursue this plan and create something we can all be proud of.”

“We understand the frustration of the present circumstances and whilst we seek patience and continued support for the longer-term objectives, we are absolutely determined to fix key issues in the short term to establish a winning team. The task of appointing a Head Coach who is both aligned to the overall plan and capable of impacting the team’s performance and style in the immediate weeks and months is a priority above all else. I fully understand the potential of the football club and I’m looking forward to working collectively with staff, players and fans to restore the club to its rightful place in the Premier League. There’s no doubt about the size of the task ahead of us and the need to be pragmatic in our approach, but we all share the same dream and the work starts now to make this a reality.”

Or does this help?

A key part will be retaining our best young talent which is something the club has been criticised for in the past.
How important is it to keep players that have been developed from the age of eight to 16


Speakman - It's a fairly obvious thing that the club wants that, but I also think the players want to do that.

I very rarely come across young players who come from an area of the country and come through an academy but are desperate to move.

One of the things you have to look at is what are the reasons that has happened, what can we correct and improve, and ultimately you need to provide a player with the understanding that you are going to manage their programme on an individual basis and they are going to get everything they need.

That doesn't mean spoiling young players, but if you look across player development, personal development, medical and sports science analysis, in this country there is a very high benchmark on the provisions available to these young players.

Therefore, if you are not going to provide a player with a certain element of that, and you are going to be restricting their potential, then ultimately they are going to choose to go somewhere else.

One of the things that's important about this project is that they want to create a best-in-class academy, and they want Sunderland's academy to be the centrepiece of their strategy.

They also want this to be a powerhouse in the North East of high performance and an institute of excellence across medical, analysis and sports science.

Its unreal mate...we have been clamouring for somthing like this to come along for years....what do people actually expect....the lads not even here yet ffs

But hes made a statement on the clubs website outlining his vision for the club. I cant remember that happening during a ongoing sale process at a club....hes provided evidence as clearly hes involved in recent appointments....its impossible to provide evidence that its working until a period of time passes.

Some need to relax & let KLD & his team concentrate on getting us going, incredibly busy period ahead to get us going asap....yet some are wanting to claim tje lottery prize before the ticket is on

.....the tickets on...lets enjoy watching it play out....although its gutting not veing able to go
 
I agree with that tbf. There is a thing with statements at the minute.

RR done one the other day to clarify their position on Donald, and it felt very self important. I think with RAWA they're supposed to be our "reps" so it's different, but nobody would have been upset if they'd not said anything.

That's the tricky thing with with these 'open letters', it's virtually impossible for them not to look self important ...

... and the press will inevitably pick up on the most sensational aspect.

Sometimes it's best just to smile and say nowt.

And if you do say something try not to make it look like your speaking for the entire support.
 
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Read it again.

Why anything other than "Welcome to Wearside, we look forward to embracing your plans for the clubs future" needed to be said is beyond me.

What exactly is a club of our stature? League 1, 1973 or pre world war 1?
There's a thinly veiled threat that if you don't give us what we want we'll hound you out as well.

In a nutshell it's a clusterfuck of a statement and makes all of us look like horse punchers
I agree with what you've wrote here. They are making out they speak for the entire fan base but in truth they only speak for a tiny percentage. The statement they've come out with makes them look like a prepubescent teenager trying to be relivant.
 
I agree with what you've wrote here. They are making out they speak for the entire fan base but in truth they only speak for a tiny percentage. The statement they've come out with makes them look like a prepubescent teenager trying to be relivant.

In truth they're only speaking for themselves.

This statement was drafted, agreed and sent out by 'the committee' whatever that is.

From many comments, from RAWA members, it's clear they don't reflect the views of everyone.
 
How many of our supporters wont even know who or what RAWA is.

I'm all for RAWA and any link to the club.

But I do have a problem with anyone who is 'voted into office' for any period. Especially during social distancing etc, there's nothing to stop them speaking on behalf of other people which can sometimes look like they're speaking on behalf of everyone.

If you choose to put yourself in that position you have a duty to think very carefully before you speak.
 
Read it again.

Why anything other than "Welcome to Wearside, we look forward to embracing your plans for the clubs future" needed to be said is beyond me.

What exactly is a club of our stature? League 1, 1973 or pre world war 1?
There's a thinly veiled threat that if you don't give us what we want we'll hound you out as well.

In a nutshell it's a clusterfuck of a statement and makes all of us look like horse punchers

May I just comment and say your talking Bullshit. There is no "veiled threat" as you put it. there is no suggestion of "We 'll hound you out" , again as you put it.
Its not a clusterfuck of a statement that puts us anywhere in the compass of the Shop shouters, Vicars or Horse beaters or even legal eagles currently trying to salvage a deal with heathens..

RAWA, if your a member (anyone can join for free) have a committee that was elected by its membership , you may if a member have even voted to represent those who had no voice and wished to have there concerns transmitted to the Club. Alas, any of these these message boards or podcasts rarely convey the fan base concerns or feelings directly to the Clubs hierarchy. RAWA does that, directly as required by the government interface with all supporters groups . So before you start spouting ****e, sit back and think how do you get you lone voice (if your not a member of RAWA) to be heard by the Club. Once RAWA becomes a trust ,very shortly by all accounts, they will be the voice for the supporters groups at SAFC. These are my observations and do not represent any fan group
 
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To be fair, I'd be against a stadium name change if we still played at roker Park. Stadium of light is a terrible name. Wouldnt mind it changing.

I found the sol name a bit cringey at the time but just sort of got used to it.
Can't remember all the names bandied about at the time.
Was "the monkwearmouth stadium" one ?
Bit of a mouthful but not as pretentious.
I don't like these advertising names now but I couldn't care less anymore if it helps get us back in the premier League.

Edit, agreed, Roker park was a fantastic name :)
 
I found the sol name a bit cringey at the time but just sort of got used to it.
Can't remember all the names bandied about at the time.
Was "the monkwearmouth stadium" one ?
Bit of a mouthful but not as pretentious.
I don't like these advertising names now but I couldn't care less anymore if it helps get us back in the premier League.

I suggested The Deep Shaft Stadium and got a nasty letter back from the secretary ...
 
I'm not speaking on behalf of RAWA anymore than you are, I just read it differently to you.

I never said they'd give him advice or even want to, just that they hope (like all of us) to see evidence of a long term plan.
It seems to me that a lot of plans are in Speakman press release and to be fair its enough for me and should be enough for RAWA. And to be honest actions speak louder than words SD had plenty to say when he took over but most of that turned out to be smoke and mirrors. This guy seems to be speaking loud and clear through his appointments to the club ( I know officially that SD was in charge when Speakman was hired)
 
RAWA aren't asking to see plans for the club. They're looking to see "evidence of an assured plan of long-term progression", in other words they want to see a successful long term plan in action.

That's fair enough but that does take time. And we've seen the first shoots of this being implemented so why does RAWA hope to have a meeting with KLD so they can express the demands of the fans? Not needed, RAWA aren't that important to be thinking they have to meet the new owner to tell him what he should be doing as the fans demand it. That is so poorly worded and stinks of arrogance like and that's exactly how most folk have read it. I'd expect that kind of **** from the Mags not from us.
 
can i just suggest that RAWA read the statements already made by the new staff members and the new owner?

i believe those statements pretty much outline the plans they have for the club, quite substantial considering they have not actually sat in the boss' seats yet imho...i really cannot see anything else that needs 'urgently' sorting just yet, this will not be an overnight fix as even a return to the premier under possible current circumstances could take a minimum of 2 more seasons after this one and i am sure plans will alter as required.