S.A.F.C. - the future
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lol. was thinking about Gus' time here last time..... after the Spurs game, he gave up, looked deflated, fed up, out of ideas.said we need a miracle. tippy tappy went out the window when Connor Wickham took the team by the balls and became unstoppable starting at Man City.
We had some cracking times under him though. Cup final was class etc.
Old Trafford is my favourite away day to date and that wembley weekend was something else, amazing memories, the dvd is a great watch if you don’t have it
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the whole of the sol singing the great escape tune at serious volume was indeed increyable
Would that be the same Jose Mourinho who couldn't kick a ball as a footballer?
Jose had a solid background before he got the Chelsea gig though. On the Barca staff then won the League and Champions League with Porto. Only club he's been at where he didn't win the league was Man Utd, so while he can't slam any medals on the table from his playing days he certainly can as a manager. He can walk into a place and say to the players 'You're listening to me as I know how to win things' and he does.
I agree you don't need to be a great player to be a great manager but I'd be hoping we'd be setting our sights higher than people who weren't great players and have had a season or two in the Championship as the pinnacle of their managerial career to date. It's hardly inspiring. to my mind.
I couldn't get a ticket for semi away so my uncle and me went to Quinns bar, absolutely class. Vito saves the penna and the beer stared flying.
I have a life long scar on my right shin where the seat in front of me ripped a chunk out as I fell forward and snapped it, I always look at it with a smile, pissed with blood all the way home on the coach
He needed to start somewhere...
His first ever job was at Benfica. How do you think players at a club like Benfica took that?
It wasn't his first job in football though. He started coaching in the 90's, was assistant to Robson at Porto where they won the league and cup and followed Robson to Barca where they won the Cup winners Cup and Spanish cup. He stayed at Barca when Robson left and was the Van Gall's assistant for two years and they won the league twice. It wasn't like he went from nowhere to a manager's job so my guess is, with a background like that, the Benfica players would have been canny about it. They certainly wouldn't have had to ask who he was.
i know it's been said to death...but i am sat here and still cannot get my head around A) Gus being in the country... B) making a recent statement (i think) about how he would love to come back, unfinished business etc... C) why he would bother travelling to the ground/academy only to turn the job down.
he must know or at least looked at where the club is now, surely they informed him of their business plans before they offered a deal and for him to then travel up or maybe even fly into the country for talks he must have been pretty near 100% he was going to take the job...i hope it is all cleared up soon, truthfully, as i said earlier the club have been left with little 'real world' choice but to make a statement as the fans are (quite rightly imho) getting more and more annoyed and drifting further and further away, with no fans allowed into grounds for a while they are going to need that connection, lose that and it could take many years for the club to recover, if ever.
he must know or at least looked at where the club is now, surely they informed him of their business plans before they offered a deal and for him to then travel up or maybe even fly into the country for talks he must have been pretty near 100% he was going to take the job...i hope it is all cleared up soon, truthfully, as i said earlier the club have been left with little 'real world' choice but to make a statement as the fans are (quite rightly imho) getting more and more annoyed and drifting further and further away, with no fans allowed into grounds for a while they are going to need that connection, lose that and it could take many years for the club to recover, if ever.
Wait. Are we now saying Poyet isn't happening?
I've missed much of the thread. I can't keep up properly.
Aye it all sounds a bit strange. Given the length of time this takeover has been going on for I'm pretty sure the club will have been speaking to poyet for quite a while. He'll have been fully aware of how the new set up would work, how much he could spend etc. If there were major things still to decide, the kind that might turn a tentative yes into a no, they likely wouldn't have sacked Parkinson, so I can't believe that it's some substantial issue that can't be discussed and resolved.
Truth be told I'm just hoping they can sort out whatever issue put a stop to it. It's probably not the right thing to think, but I want a bit of a statement manager. We've been in the dumps for so long that I think the whole place needs a lift. It's similar to when we needed Keane because standards had dropped so low and Drumaville wanted to show that they meant business. No disrespect to the likes of cowley and cook, but no one is going to be enthused if they walk through the door, especially if it's thought that they might be rodwells pick. We need some hope , something that suggests this is more than a reshuffle, and if it isn't going to be Poyet I hope they at least consider the likes of Pearson (or Keane tbh) rather than going for a safe, unambitious, happy to be here appointment again.
honestly, i did not get half way through after watching our caretakers interview...why can none of them hold a conversation without their eyes wandering everywhere?
it always struck me as an untruthful person when they can not hold eye contact and power is not helped by his 'wind problem'...i also thought his hair style was bad, now i see why he grew it.
sorry lads, but run of the mill soundbites do not cut it anymore...as a team you did not play until you had gone goal down, the young lads again tried to show you the way and once that bit of urgency crept into your game so did the chances...the other 80 or so minutes, dreadful.
apparently came up after being offered a 3.5 year deal then walked away after turning the job down as he did not feel a drop to a 3rd division club as the right move in his career...that would be a drop from err... no job at all...
you decide from that as that is all we have to go off, so far.
Sorry to be a pain, roughly how many pages ago was this? Or how many hours ago?
I'll try catch up.
This all sounds ****ing weird to me. Coming up only to turn it down? Is he using us for PR or something.
really has me thinking back to the 'something rotten at the core of this club' type of statement we heard from a couple of managers...has that still not changed even though almost all the staff have been changed in recent years?
seems damn strange if it has not mind...maybe i am joining in with the overthinking that is going on now, i really do not know which is why i feel the club HAVE to start putting a few things 'to bed' so to speak.
Keith downie tweeted about it around ten hours ago (previously all the ITK's were saying it was a done deal, 3.5 year contract etc). So this was the tweet, any time after then you'll see the reaction
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as i said, you decide what you can from that...there has been nothing official from the club at all...according to a few (not just one lad/one source) Gus was 'in the door' and was meeting the players today, next was a sudden tweet from downie saying Gus WILL NOT be taking sunderland job...be thankful you have missed it, our heads have been cabbaged big style today
Nice one mate.
I'm pleased to be honest. I thought he was a useless sack of **** and couldn't believe people were excited at the prospect given how horrible it became under his tenure.