Transfer Rumours Summer 2020 Transfer Thread

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Steven Toast said:
Over the years, especially in the Premier League, we've brought in players that were doing well in their respective divisions, well enough that we decided they should come and play for us. Then, magically, they've been ****, our fans write them off and they leave with a cloud over their heads. But, by some miracle, they go to another club and they start doing well again. Granted, a few drop down to a lower level, but there are examples of players going on and rediscovering the form that led us to buy them in the first place.

Altidore, Proschwitz, Sagbo, Ince (did well in the Championship before and after, was a victim of Bruce's tactical switch to 3-5-2), Diomande, Elabdellaoui, Henriksen, Ramirez, Mbokani. All came here with decent pedigrees and records, all left with a big fat "they're ****" label on them. And that's just in recent seasons. Note that more than half the names on that list are strikers, too.

Sometimes, it just doesn't work out with some players, sometimes they don't settle, sometimes they get injured. But the ones I've listed above aren't bad players, not by any stretch and it just so happens that when they signed for us, they were crap, but they're now playing for other clubs that get more out of them.
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plus Ben Arfa - completely ****ed up and ****ed off - straight to Nice and scored 17 in 34
 
jhe10 said:
Thanks, hadn't thought of that. So we've managed to shift one youngster, who wasn't close to the first team. I don't understand what the thinking is, unless there just isn't any.
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The move has got to be right for both parties. It’s also worth pointing out that because fans aren’t allowed in, it means scouts struggle to get around to watch players too.
We don’t just send players to other teams just because we’re bigger. We used to do that with Ferriby, but the level they are playing at makes it pointless.
 
Steven Toast said:
The move has got to be right for both parties. It’s also worth pointing out that because fans aren’t allowed in, it means scouts struggle to get around to watch players too.
We don’t just send players to other teams just because we’re bigger. We used to do that with Ferriby, but the level they are playing at makes it pointless.
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I would imagine a lot of league 1-2 clubs are watching every single penny and won’t want to contribute anything to any wages for players they don’t own .
 
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Speaking of loans, didn't know which thread to ask this in, but can anyone remember the link to United that led us to having so many of their players on loan 2010-12? Was it Joyce or someone else?
 
SydneyTiger14 said:
Speaking of loans, didn't know which thread to ask this in, but can anyone remember the link to United that led us to having so many of their players on loan 2010-12? Was it Joyce or someone else?
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It was Joyce yeah, though he now has the same role at Salford. Not sure it would have the same impact.
 
jhe10 said:
Thanks, hadn't thought of that. So we've managed to shift one youngster, who wasn't close to the first team. I don't understand what the thinking is, unless there just isn't any.
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We’re generally looking at non league for the players with no experience and they can go on loan outside the window.
 
originallambrettaman said:
We’re generally looking at non league for the players with no experience and they can go on loan outside the window.
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I appreciate that, I was more wondering about why we're not looking for league experience for fringe youngsters like Jones C, Arthur, Ritson, Sheaf, Chadwick etc.
 
Steven Toast said:
The move has got to be right for both parties. It’s also worth pointing out that because fans aren’t allowed in, it means scouts struggle to get around to watch players too.
We don’t just send players to other teams just because we’re bigger. We used to do that with Ferriby, but the level they are playing at makes it pointless.
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Scouts are still allowed into the grounds to watch games, tightly controlled and only one ticket per scouting team, us for example are limiting it to 6 scouts per home game and have have used the exec boxes to keep the scouts distanced some games. They also have to be at the match an hour (ISH) before KO and go through temp screening and a few other bits before being allowed in
 
Howdentiger2 said:
Scouts are still allowed into the grounds to watch games, tightly controlled and only one ticket per scouting team, us for example are limiting it to 6 scouts per home game and have have used the exec boxes to keep the scouts distanced some games. They also have to be at the match an hour (ISH) before KO and go through temp screening and a few other bits before being allowed in
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Oh I figured they weren't allowed in because they usually sit in the crowd. Are they still allowed in grounds where the lockdown is tier 3?
 
Steven Toast said:
Oh I figured they weren't allowed in because they usually sit in the crowd. Are they still allowed in grounds where the lockdown is tier 3?
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At the moment yes, but things could change as they always seem to do ATM. One of the scouts I know who was at our game Tuesday actually commented on how well organised it all was, how well they where looked after and that it was the most thorough set up they had seen so far this season. The ones I have spoken to are actually preferring it with no fans as they can hear a lot more of the communication between the players&coaches and can then see how the players react to instructions etc
 
Steven Toast said:
It was Joyce yeah, though he now has the same role at Salford. Not sure it would have the same impact.
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The reason I ask is on our podcast we've just started a series looking back at the 2010s and I knew it was someone at United we had ties to but for some reason was sure it wasn't Joyce! But yeah that makes complete sense. Quite a conveyor belt of talent we had through our doors from them at a time when we really needed it.
 
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