S.A.F.C. - the future

  • Please bear with us on the new site integration and fixing any known bugs over the coming days. If you can not log in please try resetting your password and check your spam box. If you have tried these steps and are still struggling email [email protected] with your username/registered email address
  • Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!
I was told by someone involved, without question, that Donald had the deal done then asked for a supplementary payment for promotion and again from the Championship.

Have you heard anything similar.

Was reported in ‘The Sun’ by Nixon, and was obviously denied by SD, but something happened to piss FPP off and he basically changed the goal posts. Foolish
 
  • Like
Reactions: Smug in Boots
Doubt it'll be as high as that. I'd look at a ballpark of around half of what you've quoted, which will still equate to £9 million per year and quickly becomes unsustainable, in our position.

Aye, you're probably right, I thought I'd seen GOM quote a likely loss of £1.5m a month but I'd misread his post. Mind the last accounts showed around £9m profit before the write off. Costs will have gone down since but if we take off the parachute payment that would have been about £11m loss. Like I say costs will have dropped a fair bit in terms of wages since then but equally our revenue will be hit massively by not having the ground open. Our ticket takings must be about £10 a ticket on average, so near £300,000 a match . Even if we get 10000 people streaming (very optimistic) that's £200,000 loss per home game. Whatever the figure it'll be high and it'll be eating into the loan.
 
Forget what league we’re in, we just need him gone. The damage he’s doing behind the scenes is setting us back years!!! Good people leaving and not being replaced, academy and infrastructure being under cut due to his cost cutting. Yes it was needed, we’re league one and when FPP do come in they will still need to be realistic with money etc, we’re League one at the end of the day... Problem is SD is hanging on to make money (you can’t blame him if I’m honest), but not to the detriment of the club/fans. Before Covid the FPP deal was enough for him to leave with a tidy sum, but he got greedy and asked for more. No one could predict this pandemic, but it will end up ruining him.. It’s all played into FPP’s hands. I Just hope the damage isnt ong-standing and FPP have a vision to turn us around (which I’ve been told isn’t an issue... their plans are big and they aren’t amateurs). Just it depends with SD shenanigans who out of the original FFP are left and if it is in fact just GF, but I’m sure the others still have a interest as the potential is there
 
I was told by someone involved, without question, that Donald had the deal done then asked for a supplementary payment for promotion and again from the Championship.

Have you heard anything similar.

Certainly heard that he was moving the goal posts and asking for things that weren't seen as reasonable . The extra payments would certainly fall into that category seeing as it would be their investment and their risk that would hopefully see us into the top flight and would be nowt to do with Donald. So aye, I've heard suggestions that it was things like that, genuinely can't remember if I was told that as a specific, but it rings a bell
 
Certainly heard that he was moving the goal posts and asking for things that weren't seen as reasonable . The extra payments would certainly fall into that category seeing as it would be their investment and their risk that would hopefully see us into the top flight and would be nowt to do with Donald. So aye, I've heard suggestions that it was things like that, genuinely can't remember if I was told that as a specific, but it rings a bell

I was told in strict confidence, said nothing then posted it one night when I was drunk <laugh>

5m and 10m I was told and this after terms were agreed.
 
I was told in strict confidence, said nothing then posted it one night when I was drunk <laugh>

5m and 10m I was told and this after terms were agreed.[/QUOTE

So if you’ve heard similar to myself in the past, why are you hearing something totally different Now

Forget who is in the know etc, I still believe (and no one has told me, just my view), that the club are releasing stories/rumours regarding talks progress, and that’s why yourself and Magnus are adamant, but I’m hearing different which is why I’m so adamant
Honestly why he wants everyone to believe talks are ongoing I can only think to quiet us down and hope that he can come up with something to allow him to cling on longer. That’s my initial approach, but even now with the governments announcements regarding crowds, he’s got to realise he’s not got long left
 

I'm still fairly sure it isn't Donald who is leaking things about the buyers, it does him no favours at all. Was told someone else wants Donald out and is leaking stuff to put pressure on him to do a deal (knowing exactly how the fans will react if another takeover is seen to have fallen through). That's not to say there aren't discussions, I'm sure there are, but I think the very positive side of things and imminent completions were being put out there largely by someone who isn't Donald. It now seems like it might have worked, Donald might have decided to go, but the buyers are now the ones making life difficult because they know they're in a very strong position.
 
If he didn’t need the loan, he wouldn’t have taken the loan.

For me, he knew he needed breathing space and this was before covid hit.

Barely a day passes when I don’t get an email from Barclays asking if I want a loan. I don’t take it as I don’t ****ing needed.

You don’t debt yourself up for the craic, and you certainly don’t put your assets at risk for no reason.

If he couldn’t afford to fix a ****ing lift, believe me he needed that loan and now he’s (hopefully) over a barrel and we get some owners with finance and foresight.

The potential of the club for growth, from such a low starting point for an investor, is mind blowing.
 
If he didn’t need the loan, he wouldn’t have taken the loan.

For me, he knew he needed breathing space and this was before covid hit.

Barely a day passes when I don’t get an email from Barclays asking if I want a loan. I don’t take it as I don’t ****ing needed.

You don’t debt yourself up for the craic, and you certainly don’t put your assets at risk for no reason.

If he couldn’t afford to fix a ****ing lift, believe me he needed that loan and now he’s (hopefully) over a barrel and we get some owners with finance and foresight.

The potential of the club for growth, from such a low starting point for an investor, is mind blowing.

His attempts at smokescreening are pitiful.

Mentioning the lift was infantile in the extreme.

Does he really believe there's one supporter who wants to hear that shyte ffs ...

... we're in L1 Donald you clown!!!
 
Surely now is the best time to buy. Not six months time when there is a real prospect that things will be getting back to normal(vaccine and all that)

Not necessarily.

Buy now and you are buying at say 25m but with a high risk of losing 10m more AND even further risk of more losses should it go on even further.

Buy when it's over for 35m and it's practically zero risk in comparison.

Of course billionaires generally become billionaires by taking risk but I'm sure there will be people put off buying football clubs at present. It will only be the genuine long termers and very rich willing to buy into football at present.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Nads
Forget what league we’re in, we just need him gone. The damage he’s doing behind the scenes is setting us back years!!! Good people leaving and not being replaced, academy and infrastructure being under cut due to his cost cutting. Yes it was needed, we’re league one and when FPP do come in they will still need to be realistic with money etc, we’re League one at the end of the day... Problem is SD is hanging on to make money (you can’t blame him if I’m honest), but not to the detriment of the club/fans. Before Covid the FPP deal was enough for him to leave with a tidy sum, but he got greedy and asked for more. No one could predict this pandemic, but it will end up ruining him.. It’s all played into FPP’s hands. I Just hope the damage isnt ong-standing and FPP have a vision to turn us around (which I’ve been told isn’t an issue... their plans are big and they aren’t amateurs). Just it depends with SD shenanigans who out of the original FFP are left and if it is in fact just GF, but I’m sure the others still have a interest as the potential is there
Howld on a minute. Have i missed something here. Are you now saying there is something going on after insisting for months there was nothing happening.