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Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by Ben 10, Nov 10, 2019.

  1. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

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    Correct decision last night .. plain and simple .
     
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  2. Hung Drawn and Quartered

    Hung Drawn and Quartered Well-Known Member

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    another good decision, to send Auba off for Arsenal
    would only of been a yellow had the ref got his way
    it was clear to see on replay that it was a red card
     
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  3. JakartaToon

    JakartaToon Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Starting to come round to this way of thinking now. I thought it was good in the World Cup but I think that it is killing the entertainment value of the game for the fans with the delays. I would have a serious rethink about how it is used and would bin it off all together.
     
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  4. Prince Isak (GG)

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    Var aside if that had been jonjo it would have been a straight red. But because it’s nice boy auba it was a yellow.
     
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  5. Hung Drawn and Quartered

    Hung Drawn and Quartered Well-Known Member

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    I get what you are saying regards Jonjo,
    and for this reason I'm glad Var is in and got the correct decission in the end- straight red

    I note that a lot of games are now reffed by inexperienced refs while the more experienced refs are 4th officials or VAR officials
    VAR is hopefully bringing them all upto to the same standard,
    although the game last night against Man city and Villa shows that refs can still influence the game
    second half there was 6 subs, 3 goals and a penalty
    when you consider that all goals are checked by VAR (delaying the re start)
    and all penalties are checked by VAR (delaying the spot kick)
    you have to wonder why the ref only played a maximum of 1 minute added time
    it doesn't matter if Villa could not get back into the game or not
    the fact is the ref manipulates the added time
    how many time do we see at SJP the ref continue to play on despite added time being up if the opposition is attacking us and only blows
    when the ball is cleared
     
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  6. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    Correct under the rules. Rules made by people with half a brain. I suppose that is probably appealing to mouse brains like yourself.
     
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  7. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

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    I would argue the rules being adhered to means im right. What you think should happen based on your emotional desire is an innacurate pathway to truth.
     
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  8. JakartaToon

    JakartaToon Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Football is entertainment though and if VAR is spoiling that entertainment it needs to be looked at accordingly. The need for all decisions to be correct should come 2nd to ensuring that the paying public are entertained. The term referee implies arbitrator so let him arbitrate. Give him aids to assist like linesmen and goal line technology which don't interrupt the enjoyment of the spectacle
     
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  9. Toonitus

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    People moan when things dont go there way ... thats why var is here. Years of moaning about it not being fair.. now thet moan when var gets thing right ..

    People make emotional decisions and then look for any excuse to back up their emotional decision and thats a fact .

    This is why the opinions from fans, pundits etc are not a reliable source.. and that includes me, but this decision was correct ... ..
     
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  10. JakartaToon

    JakartaToon Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    People are not moaning about VAR getting decisions right - they are moaning about the game being less enjoyable to watch.

    it was worth an experiment - its not working as its not improving the entertainment so bin it.
     
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  11. Hung Drawn and Quartered

    Hung Drawn and Quartered Well-Known Member

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    People moan when things dont go there way ... ME
    thats why var is here. GOOD
    Years of moaning about it not being fair.. CORRECT
    now thet moan when var gets thing right NOT ME

    We all want a level playing field as far as the football is concerned and var is the only way we can get some sort of equality
    for me its the time it takes to get to these decissions that is the problem
    I'm sure this will be ironed out for next season
     
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  12. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

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    Bollocks

    Theyre moaning at things that dont go their way...

    They always find a way to blame something..
     
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  13. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

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    Indeed

    I think these.people forget how entertained they feel when they lost to an incorrect offside goal, no contact pens and red cards.

    And guess which teams benefited from.more of them.?? The big clubs with more fans and more people brainwashing the media now things are going against them
     
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    Theyre moaning at things that dont go their way...

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    I disagree. As a saints fan, we have had more go our way than against, but its still destroying my enjoyment. I want to see players reeling away in celebration when they score. Now they look subdued. And then the really tight offside that goes your way, and its celebrated like a goal. What a massive cringe that is. VAR will turn people away from a sport they have long loved. Its just a matter of time.
     
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  15. JakartaToon

    JakartaToon Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    That really doesn't make sense. By your logic most fans would be moaning about VAR 50% of the time. What I see on forums is people either in favour or against and not changing their views based on decisions their teams are getting.
     
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  16. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

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    You clearly have not understood my explanation on emotional decision making ..

    Its a fact

    Nothings changed it just more fair.
     
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  17. JakartaToon

    JakartaToon Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    It would be an interesting exercise at the end of the season to look at the ratio of decisions referred to VAR that went for and against each team. If that ratio is close to 1 for all teams then all it is achieving is slowing the game down.
     
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  18. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

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    It doesnt really matter whether you agree its a fact about decision making mate.

    Everyone will moan with or without var but now its fair.
     
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  19. ----HistoryRepeating----

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    Call it a fact or a stat if it makes you feel better.
     
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  20. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    Yeah **** the game, as long as the decisions are correct it doesn't matter if the game is worse. Allegedly brought in because bad decisions were spoiling peoples enjoyment. Corrects a few decisions but still completely arbitrary what is reviewed, and game enjoyment being spoiled more than previously.

    Not really achieved its goal has it <laugh>
     
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