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G4rdToonArmy said:
The whole thing is an absolute cluster **** for me, far to confusing, time consuming and sucking the life out of the game.

Clear and obvious - define that for me? I'd love to hear the FA try and explain that one!

Offsides - TBH I completely agree with VAR on this, it is either onside or offside - Is 1mm offside is that clear and obvious though? I think not. Is a cm? Maybe. For me if the rule is you are a mm offside and they can prove it then fair enough which is the case at present but they give so little information and the decision takes to long to come to and they have to check every goal.

Handball - this I struggle with - Strikers can be given handball for the slightest brush of the hand while defenders are not penalised in the same fashion especially in their own box. For me it's pretty much the same as before VAR - no one has a clue what constitutes handball in different scenarios - I'd give West Ham's disallowed goal at the weekend as an example - 2 players challenging for the ball it bounces around and comes off Rice's arm - now he was not looking at it, I think he even had his eyes closed coming out of the contact and was in no way deliberate but goal disallowed yet in that exact same instant the defender would not have been punished for handball? I can't figure how that is fair? I think the handball should be for clear and obvious bending of the rules a-la Henry vs Ireland in the knockout qualifiers for WC but then how do you prove someone meant to do it - Henry - clearly did, Rice you'd never know if he intentionally did that (I suspect not) but how can you prove one way or another hence I struggle with it.

I've said it many times before, scrap clear and obvious, give the managers 2 challenges for the 90 mins any handball is handball, a mm offside is offside, the red card for Aubamayang the other day is down to the manager to challenge if they disagree with the call from the ref. If you get the call right you keep your appeal, get it wrong and you lose it. Takes the pressure off the ref's and the onus on the team manager, captain and players who lets face it probably earn 100x the amount the ref's do with 100x less of the stick. It's the only way I can see VAR working in the game at present because the current set up is ridiculous.
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Surely this can be diluted down?
 
If it's longer than a line or two, I don't read it. Simple as.

Comes from my cocaine days I imagine.
 
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Wow, decision in the Tottenham Shef game, have a watch of the replay if you can and decide if that is handball. Worst case scenario it should be a freekick to Spurs as he's fouled and falls on the ball, if it touches the arm its an atomic brush on the hairs on the end of the arm.

I want the technology to work but atm it is to controversial and not coming to the correct decisions.
 
VAR is better than losing through blatant dives and ... massively offside goals and no contact red cards..

last season we got ****ed over week in week out ..
 
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It's here to stay, so the luddites best get used to it.
I'm slowly coming around to it, but, some decisions look ridiculous until you understand why they're made.

Handball in the build up to a goal, no matter how, is now being treat the same.
No subjectivity from the referee, just disallow all goals and you have the consistency fans etc, craved for.
Ah, but now they don't like it. Tough ****.

A referee gives a penalty, so the on pitch decision must stand, unless VAR can prove otherwise.
 
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Heed said:
It's here to stay, so the luddites best get used to it.
I'm slowly coming around to it, but, some decisions look ridiculous until you understand why they're made.

Handball in the build up to a goal, no matter how, is now being treat the same.
No subjectivity from the referee, just disallow all goals and you have the consistency fans etc, craved for.
Ah, but now they don't like it. Tough ****.

A referee gives a penalty, so the on pitch decision must stand, unless VAR can prove otherwise.
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what people need to work out on their tiny minds is the fact it's fair. ... thats what they were all complaining about for years ... wah wah it's not fair... now when they don't get a rule bent for them its wah wah it's spoilt the game.

margins of error don't help they'll argue about one being too much or too little.. the lines are drawn and have to be upheld.
 
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