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Brabs said:
I genuinely think we've already lost the battle. We'll all end up like the mindless fat drones of people in WALL-E.
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If that's the case Brabs - don't vote for the Tories - chief designers of fake news and this ****ed up country. They'll change the boundaries too, to make their removal even harder.

If you can't vote Labour -then vote Green, or even ****ing Lib Dem.

Take a stand now. Our children may thank us one day.
 
Leon T Trout AFC said:
It's different. It is not like for like - if it was, I would never support Labour.

The Labour Manifesto is not perfect. There are gaps in it and it is ambitious, possibly/probably too ambitious in places.

But by saying they're all the same totally CONDONES this fake news agenda which pervades our society. It holds no one to account.

Surely, no good for our democracy?
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Those who see one as great and the other as the devil incarnate, are completely biased and see only what they want to see.

Those of us who think they're both ****e, just see the same failings in both.
 
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originallambrettaman said:
Those who see one as great and the other as the devil incarnate, are completely biased and see only what they want to see.

Those of us who think they're both ****e, just see the same failings in both.
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I read all sorts of sources, as said. On this thread, I've acknowledged politicians from both sides, as well as broadcasters and journalists from across the spectrum.

Point being that saying both are ****, which is your entitlement, often leads to the status quo.

Have you decided what you are doing with your vote yet, and be willing to tell us?
 
Leon T Trout AFC said:
I read all sorts of sources, as said. On this thread, I've acknowledged politicians from both sides, as well as broadcasters and journalists from across the spectrum.

Point being that saying both are ****, which is your entitlement, often leads to the status quo.

Have you decided what you are doing with your vote yet, and be willing to tell us?
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It doesn't matter what I do with my vote, I live in Britain's second safest Conservative seat (and he's a bigger **** than Boris), I was going to vote LibDem, purely as a Brexit protest vote, but they've been so hopeless I'm embarrassed to tick them on the paper.

This thread has actually made me marginally more likely to vote for the ****.
 
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originallambrettaman said:
It doesn't matter what I do with my vote, I live in Britain's second safest Conservative seat (and he's a bigger **** than Boris), I was going to vote LibDem, purely as a Brexit protest vote, but they've been so hopeless I'm embarrassed to tick them on the paper.

Though this thread has actually made me marginally more likely to vote for the ****.
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Graham Stuart?

Interesting that anonymous users on a football forum can steer your vote too.

Thanks for sharing though.
 
Brabs said:
Or is it David Davis?
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Could be. Particularly with the OLM's Brexit protest.

You watch David Davis when he's speaking on a TV debate.

Always puts his glasses on, only to take them of whilst speaking. Then repeats. Does it continually.
 
Wasn't that Alan B'stard's seat anyway?

I'm sure there's an episode in The New Statesman where Alan actually comes into Hull.

Been years since I've seen it though.
 
Leon T Trout AFC said:
Could be. Particularly with the OLM's Brexit protest.

You watch David Davis when he's speaking on a TV debate.

Always puts his glasses on, only to take them of whilst speaking. Then repeats. Does it continually.
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I used to work* for him.


*Unpaid internship opening the post and making the tea.
 
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Leon T Trout AFC said:
Eh? He’s always been pro-Labour.

So when did he suddenly come out with this then? Must have been years ago (if at all). Be interested if you could pinpoint me to this time.

And it sort of contradicts your claim to have been a Labour voter up to Blair too. Strange.

Tip for the day: you really should listen to people with different views – you learn stuff directly and indirectly.
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When he was on say News night, which was quiet often, they referred to him as a journalist never as a Labourite journalist, though he may have wrote for the Guardian or some soft left mag.

FYI I was a Labour party member when Blair came onboard, but quickly got off the boat when I realised that he was a typically Labour ****e....Suck up to the working class, then $hit on them from a great height.
PS..I dislike the Tories as much as the next man but at least they have their people at the forefront of their plans. If Labour had a Alan Johnson, then they'd walk this election, but Momentum choose JC. If he doesn't resign soon after Friday then Labour are dead in the water.
 
Leon T Trout AFC said:
I read all sorts of sources, as said. On this thread, I've acknowledged politicians from both sides, as well as broadcasters and journalists from across the spectrum.

Point being that saying both are ****, which is your entitlement, often leads to the status quo.

Have you decided what you are doing with your vote yet, and be willing to tell us?
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If both sides are ****, and they are, why on earth shouldn't we say so?
 
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Leon T Trout AFC said:
Graham Stuart?

Interesting that anonymous users on a football forum can steer your vote too.

Thanks for sharing though.
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Probably because said posters ignore the post which actually point out the financial holes/lies in the Labour manifesto and pick on people who don't know the detail and ask them to prove it isn't costed, when examples have already been provided in this thread.

Then the said posters state in fairness of balance they link to people supporting Labour, to try and promote balance, when actually they are doing nothing of the sort, they are totally biased towards Labour and have no interest in balance whatsoever.

This thread is very tribal, which is probably what annoys OLM and it annoys me massively. Politics shouldn't be tribal, it should be based on logic on what you feel is the best way forward.

I believe in free market economics, and I am completely against re-nationalising anything as a) We can't afford it b) I don't trust the government to run a government never mind run numerous industries. Therefore I can't vote labour, that's logical. But this thread and politics in general isn't about logic, its about supporting a tribe no matter what their views. It's like voting for Labour under Tony Blair and Labour under Jeremy Corbyn, two completely different parties, yet people vote for Labour under both of them.
 
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City1904 said:
Probably because said posters ignore the post which actually point out the financial holes/lies in the Labour manifesto and pick on people who don't know the detail and ask them to prove it isn't costed, when examples have already been provided in this thread.

Then the said posters state in fairness of balance they link to people supporting Labour, to try and promote balance, when actually they are doing nothing of the sort, they are totally biased towards Labour and have no interest in balance whatsoever.

This thread is very tribal, which is probably what annoys OLM and it annoys me massively. Politics shouldn't be tribal, it should be based on logic on what you feel is the best way forward.

I believe in free market economics, and I am completely against re-nationalising anything as a) We can't afford it b) I don't trust the government to run a government never mind run numerous industries. Therefore I can't vote labour, that's logical. But this thread and politics in general isn't about logic, its about supporting a tribe no matter what their views. It's like voting for Labour under Tony Blair and Labour under Jeremy Corbyn, two completely different parties, yet people vote for Labour under both of them.
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Absolutely <ok>
 
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