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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Chazz Rheinhold, Dec 8, 2019.

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  1. Edelman

    Edelman Well-Known Member

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    We all know people like this don't we !
    I've been surprised lately by people I've known all my life suddenly having this attitude !
     
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    I'm still confused as to how people think Brexit will help the normal working person in this country
     
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  3. Mr Hatem

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    Most people who voted for Brexit thought all foreigners* would be thrown out of the UK the very next day, including some on here.
    That worked out well didn't it?

    *including all refugees and descendants of immigrants from the 'New Commonwealth' who arrived in Britain decades ago.
     
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  4. originallambrettaman

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    People working in the car manufacturing industry will get to spend much more time with their families...
     
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  5. Leon T Trout AFC

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    I don't think it'd be a coalition, or a formal confidence and supply.

    It'd be a Labour minority government that the SNP would support on a case by case basis. They want investment for Scotland and an end to austerity badly too.

    However, if the SNP smashes the Scottish elections in 2020, they will take it as a mandate for pushing for Indyref2.

    If Labour, who needs their votes to pass legislation refuse, then I would guess they will withdraw their support on key issues. Which could lead to the collapse of govt.

    However, Labour are offering a remain option in the second ref. That and a healthy end to austerity as well as investment in Scotland could well be enough to keep Scotland in the UK.

    I do think another independence ref is somewhat inevitable in the 2020s at some point though, whoever wins this election.
     
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  6. Edelman

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    It won't it is just a Nationalistic harking back to presumed glory days !
    I've read a couple if books this year from people who grew up and lived through the late 20s onwards !
    One of them Harry Leslie Smith painted a very different picture of his first couple of decades .
    The period of the 50s and 60s did seem a time of a lot more community than nowadays !
    We seem to have drifted more towards a I'll keep myself to myself society !
     
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    I'm listening to Ian Dale at the moment and yes,he is an intelligent individual.
     
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  8. Edelman

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    But it's ok for Brits to go working all over the world I suppose ?
    I guess they are not imigrants !
    Interestingly you don't here people refering to Aussies ,Americans ,Canadians etc as foriegners or imigrants in the same breath.
     
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    I think we'll see tonnes of immigration post Brexit - especially for unskilled jobs, where they will be a shortfall.

    And in a de-regulated Britain - loads from poorer African and Asian countries where these employees can be paid peanuts,

    Britain has done well out of immigration. But what has happened, at the same time, poorer people have been shafted by successive governments and a dogwhistle media has tried to create divisions and have scapegoated immigrants.
     
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  10. Ric Glasgow

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    That's an insult to anyone who voted brexit and reeks of racist allegation!!!
     
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  11. Mr Hatem

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    There is no allegation.
    Why did you vote for Brexit then?
     
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  12. Edelman

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    There is an element of truth in it !
    It would be silly to claim that all people that voted leave are racist as that isn't the case !
     
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    The problem for the SNP is a no deal Brexit and a Johnson government would enhance there chances of independence. But there voters hate both hugely.

    If there where to be seen as aided either they'd be destroyed.
     
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  14. Ric Glasgow

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    You tell me as you seem to have made your mind up and pre judged the situation!!
     
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  15. Leon T Trout AFC

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    It would help them garner support but under a Johnson majority (partic a big one) they would have zero leverage to gain a new referendum.
     
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    I’m over 40 ... just.
     
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    'Most people'....read the post!!
     
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  18. Edelman

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    How so ?:emoticon-0103-cool:
     
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  19. Mr Hatem

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    I said most people not all people. It might have been without any malice and sub-conscious.
     
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    Shadow health secretary Jonathan Ashworth doesn't seem very confident...

    "Question is to Labour, gets itself half decent leader, next time round reverse and regain its traditional heartland seats.

    "I just can't see how you [the Conservatives] don't have a majority to be honest."

    "Outside of the city seats, if you're in small-town Midlands and the North, it's abysmal out there. They don't like Johnson, but they can't stand Corbyn and they think Labour's blocked Brexit."

    On the chances of a Labour majority, he said: "I just can't see it happening.

    "Johnson and CCHQ would have to massively **** it up."

    He was recorded talking to a Conservative MP, a tad embarrassing.
     
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