Match Day Thread Hull City v Sheff Utd

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I've been in the 'home end' loads of times - even the 'away end' at Bootferry Park - but have always respected the other team by keeping schtum.

Say respected, more for self preservation actually but right or wrong, openly celebrating/goading home fans in this manner is tantamount to inciting violence.

I think the reaction to any City fans in the Shoreham End would have been far worse, from both fans and police.
 
The fact you don't understand it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. The Mods and Rockers battles must have thrown you.
Of course rugby fans attack people from the same city. That must really confuse you.

Did I say it doesn't happen? I think I pretty much said the exact opposite in saying I don't understand why it DOES happen. How odd.
 
I suspected that might be the answer. It's not right though.

My point was that people "support our local team". They support a team based on where they are from generally.

The person 'getting in your face' isn't really a requirement for my point. In fact that person would be the subject of my point. Why would anybody get in anybody's face about a team they support? Why does there have to be a reaction or action? Why would somebody claiming a team from where they are from is better than the team from where you are from make anybody need to resort to violence?

Also please don't suggest I'm an Oasis fan. You crossed a line there.

You don't go to football, do you? You can't as you don't understand the passion it engenders.Or maybe you are one of the sit down shut up brigade?
 
You don't go to football, do you? You can't as you don't understand the passion it engenders.Or maybe you are one of the sit down shut up brigade?

Ha ha. I was literally waiting for you to mention standing and sitting! You are a parody of yourself. Do you read posts or just copy, paste and hope it fits?

Why does passion have to result in violence?
 
How odd you couldn't understand the point I was making. Odd but unsurprising.

The 'point' you were making was that these things happen. My query was why. You added literally nothing to my query. Thanks for your assistance. It was as helpful as the time you told me there are no Puffins at Flamborough then proceeded to query why I was doing anything outside of Hull. That was odd too.
 
The 'point' you were making was that these things happen. My query was why. You added literally nothing to my query. Thanks for your assistance. It was as helpful as the time you told me there are no Puffins at Flamborough then proceeded to query why I was doing anything outside of Hull. That was odd too.

The point is that these things do happen. Knowing that, steps should be taken to prevent it happening. Which, unsurprisingly the SMC fell short on.

I would have thought telling someone the correct location of the puffins, Bempton cliffs, would be helpful to anyone wishing to see them as they would be disappointed if they went to Flamborough.
 
Ha ha. I was literally waiting for you to mention standing and sitting! You are a parody of yourself. Do you read posts or just copy, paste and hope it fits?

Why does passion have to result in violence?

Well, passion is more likely to result in violence than supine behaviour.

I take it you are one who tuts at people standing or showing any emotion and think a football match should be treated like a visit to the theatre?
 
The point is that these things do happen. Knowing that, steps should be taken to prevent it happening. Which, unsurprisingly the SMC fell short on.

I would have thought telling someone the correct location of the puffins, Bempton cliffs, would be helpful to anyone wishing to see them as they would be disappointed if they went to Flamborough.

Oh god. You still don't acknowledge the presence of puffins a Flamborough Cliffs? Yes Bempton also has some but Flamborough has too. Heck, Flamborough even had a Puffin Festival last year. Seriously, take a trip. There are loads on the cliffs with the Kittiwakes, Guillemots, Razorbills, etc.

https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/new...ost-family-friendly-puffin-festival-1-9172598

https://www.visithullandeastyorkshi...amborough-Cliffs/details/?dms=3&venue=2293225

https://www.ywt.org.uk/nature-reserves/flamborough-cliffs-nature-reserve
 
Well, passion is more likely to result in violence than supine behaviour.

I take it you are one who tuts at people standing or showing any emotion and think a football match should be treated like a visit to the theatre?

Stop trying to shoehorn in your obsession with standing, tutting, etc. I'm not interested in that 'debate'. People can enjoy it how they like. As long as it doesn't include punching somebody.

I don't think simply saying 'passion' is enough. I am passionate about stuff. Never punched anybody because they have slightly different focuses for their passions though. I'm interested in the mindset. Why people think football gives reason for violence. What is going through their minds when swinging fists.
 
Oh god. You still don't acknowledge the presence of puffins a Flamborough Cliffs? Yes Bempton also has some but Flamborough has too. Heck, Flamborough even had a Puffin Festival last year. Seriously, take a trip. There are loads on the cliffs with the Kittiwakes, Guillemots, Razorbills, etc.

https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/new...ost-family-friendly-puffin-festival-1-9172598

https://www.visithullandeastyorkshi...amborough-Cliffs/details/?dms=3&venue=2293225

https://www.ywt.org.uk/nature-reserves/flamborough-cliffs-nature-reserve

If you want to give sure of seeing plenty of puffins go to Bempton. My next door neighbour is involved with helping at Bempton and a keen birdwatcher.
 
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Stop trying to shoehorn in your obsession with standing, tutting, etc. I'm not interested in that 'debate'. People can enjoy it how they like. As long as it doesn't include punching somebody.

I don't think simply saying 'passion' is enough. I am passionate about stuff. Never punched anybody because they have slightly different focuses for their passions though. I'm interested in the mindset. Why people think football gives reason for violence. What is going through their minds when swinging fists.

I don't think you even go to City. Just enjoy stirring things. Probably live in Norway.
 
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cut n paste from hdm comments...

"Sold out our allocation straight away, we could've easily bought another 10,000 tickets.
Loads of us were sat in the East stand, all joined Hull city as members with no question as to the address given (I live in Hull) as many just gave Sheffield addresses.
The trouble in the North stand was one fan! He celebrates when we scored the first, no problem, but when we scored the second he celebrates again and was set upon. He did a good job looking after himself but in fairness shouldn't have been throwing punches at the steward as he was being led out.

We were in the East stand and after the scuffle kicked off I asked a steward if I could move into the away end as my daughter was getting a bit scared, they shoved about 40 of us in there."

All to easy for away fans to get home tickets....after next season that won't be a problem in league 1 though.
 
Stop trying to shoehorn in your obsession with standing, tutting, etc. I'm not interested in that 'debate'. People can enjoy it how they like. As long as it doesn't include punching somebody.

I don't think simply saying 'passion' is enough. I am passionate about stuff. Never punched anybody because they have slightly different focuses for their passions though. I'm interested in the mindset. Why people think football gives reason for violence. What is going through their minds when swinging fists.

Give it a rest- you are getting tedious
 
Give it a rest- you are getting tedious

In what way? I've only replied to comments. Not even many comments. I'm just trying to get into the mindset of why some people get violent at football matches. Not managed to get any idea yet of what it is that makes people do it. What's your opinion? Do you ever fight at games? If so what is your thought process?
 
SMC statement after crowd trouble mars KCOM Stadium's Easter weekend

Hull FC, KR, Hull City and Sheffield United fans were involved in trouble

The company that runs the KCOM Stadium says it is working with police to find the people involved in violence that marred two games over the Easter weekend.

Hull FC and Hull KR fans clashed in the East Stand on Good Friday as bottles were thrown during the derby clash between the two bitter rivals.

Just three days later, Hull City and Sheffield United supporters were pictured brawling in the North Stand at Easter Monday's Championship game.


The two violent incidents, the first of which also involved a smoke bomb being thrown onto the pitch, came less than 72 hours apart.

Videos taken at the derby showed missiles being thrown by both sections of supporters with Hull Kingston Rovers the first to act after the game, threatening "strong action against any supporter identified" and saying they would not hesitate to ban anyone involved.

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Hull KR fans seen fighting among themselves during the match with Hull FC at the KCOM Stadium on Good Friday, 2019
On Monday, Sheffield United fans who bought tickets among the home supporters clashed with City fans when celebrating the visiting team's first goal.

Stewards and police weighed in to break up the two sets of supporters, several of whom were pictured throwing fists at each other.

A large group had to be escorted by police into the away end, having bought tickets to sit among the City fans - the visitors sold out their allocation for what was one of their biggest games of the season as they hunted a return to the Premier League.

The Football Association confirmed they would investigate the brawl that broke out with a spokesman telling the Sun it "will be liaising with the clubs and Humberside Police" to investigate what happened.


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Sheffield United's goal was met with violent scenes and angry Hull City fans (Image: PA)
The incidents have forced the SMC, who run the stadium shared by the football and rugby league club, to say they will review their current ticketing arrangements.

In a statement, a spokeswoman for the SMC said: "SMC are reviewing the weekend’s incidents with Humberside Police and will take appropriate action with the individuals involved.


"SMC will also consider current arrangements in light of recent crowd behaviour."

More than 20,000 people attended the Good Friday derby where FC and KR fans squared off, before just over 14,000 watched the Tigers go down to a heavy defeat to their opponents from South Yorkshire.

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Smoke bomb thrown onto the pitch at the KCOM Stadium during the Hull FC vs Hull KR Good Friday game, 2019
The brawls after the Good Friday derby brought widespread condemnation from both sets of fans.

Hull FC fan Andrew Robbins urged fellow supporters of both clubs to accept the blame equally.

He said: “Let's not start labelling all Rovers fans as trouble causers. They have idiots just like every club and let's face it we've had our fair share of morons following us in the past.

“We should be working together to identify and ban these people from both clubs to protect this family game.”

Lee Greaves believes the misbehaving fans should receive harsh punishment

He said: “Total disgrace. They ain't doing this in my name nor any other good fans name. Not Rovers fans in my eyes, just cowards who think they are clever which they are not.

“Idiots or morons, call 'em what you like. I like a beer but it never crossed my mind to throw anything. They should receive a ban for life from every sporting event across the world.”

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/smc-statement-after-crowd-trouble-2787126
 
Yeah I thought they were reviewing it for next season, although if I recall from the fans meeting notes Eknob seems more determined than ever to keep it

It may well depend on how many stands they close. There have been rumours the North Stand or the East Stand will be closed next season.
 
SMC statement after crowd trouble mars KCOM Stadium's Easter weekend

Hull FC, KR, Hull City and Sheffield United fans were involved in trouble

The company that runs the KCOM Stadium says it is working with police to find the people involved in violence that marred two games over the Easter weekend.

Hull FC and Hull KR fans clashed in the East Stand on Good Friday as bottles were thrown during the derby clash between the two bitter rivals.

Just three days later, Hull City and Sheffield United supporters were pictured brawling in the North Stand at Easter Monday's Championship game.


The two violent incidents, the first of which also involved a smoke bomb being thrown onto the pitch, came less than 72 hours apart.

Videos taken at the derby showed missiles being thrown by both sections of supporters with Hull Kingston Rovers the first to act after the game, threatening "strong action against any supporter identified" and saying they would not hesitate to ban anyone involved.

You must log in or register to see images

Hull KR fans seen fighting among themselves during the match with Hull FC at the KCOM Stadium on Good Friday, 2019
On Monday, Sheffield United fans who bought tickets among the home supporters clashed with City fans when celebrating the visiting team's first goal.

Stewards and police weighed in to break up the two sets of supporters, several of whom were pictured throwing fists at each other.

A large group had to be escorted by police into the away end, having bought tickets to sit among the City fans - the visitors sold out their allocation for what was one of their biggest games of the season as they hunted a return to the Premier League.

The Football Association confirmed they would investigate the brawl that broke out with a spokesman telling the Sun it "will be liaising with the clubs and Humberside Police" to investigate what happened.


You must log in or register to see images

Sheffield United's goal was met with violent scenes and angry Hull City fans (Image: PA)
The incidents have forced the SMC, who run the stadium shared by the football and rugby league club, to say they will review their current ticketing arrangements.

In a statement, a spokeswoman for the SMC said: "SMC are reviewing the weekend’s incidents with Humberside Police and will take appropriate action with the individuals involved.


"SMC will also consider current arrangements in light of recent crowd behaviour."

More than 20,000 people attended the Good Friday derby where FC and KR fans squared off, before just over 14,000 watched the Tigers go down to a heavy defeat to their opponents from South Yorkshire.

You must log in or register to see images

Smoke bomb thrown onto the pitch at the KCOM Stadium during the Hull FC vs Hull KR Good Friday game, 2019
The brawls after the Good Friday derby brought widespread condemnation from both sets of fans.

Hull FC fan Andrew Robbins urged fellow supporters of both clubs to accept the blame equally.

He said: “Let's not start labelling all Rovers fans as trouble causers. They have idiots just like every club and let's face it we've had our fair share of morons following us in the past.

“We should be working together to identify and ban these people from both clubs to protect this family game.”

Lee Greaves believes the misbehaving fans should receive harsh punishment

He said: “Total disgrace. They ain't doing this in my name nor any other good fans name. Not Rovers fans in my eyes, just cowards who think they are clever which they are not.

“Idiots or morons, call 'em what you like. I like a beer but it never crossed my mind to throw anything. They should receive a ban for life from every sporting event across the world.”

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/smc-statement-after-crowd-trouble-2787126

So, basically, the police will be engaged in their favourite pastime, spending time tracking down and banning Hull City fans. Meanwhile what happens to the Sheffield United fans who, aided by the ineptness of the SMC, were in breach of ground regulations? They are escorted to join the other Sheffield fans and return home untroubled by Humberside's finest. I wonder if the FA will be having words about the police endangering fans and ignoring ground safety regulations by putting g extra fans in an area where all the tickets had been sold?
 
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There are signs on the turnstiles clearly saying HOME FANS ONLY. The Sheff U fans knew exactly what they were doing and it is they who the police should be concentrating on. Plus those who sold them the tickets and placed every home fan in a volatile situation. No home fans should even be questioned. They are members who have the right to be in that stand. If it was City fans in the away section then it would be a different scenario, but it wasn't.
Sheff U fans were also in the West Stand but they did not draw attention to themselves by waving their arms about and gobbing off.
 
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