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  1. DirtyFrank

    DirtyFrank Well-Known Member

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    the entire premise that because one of the sources was anti trump it invalidates the information lol...

    well, just release a **** load of criminals then since tip offs often come from disgruntled underlings, rival criminals etc etc lol..

    has no legal consequence. none unless it can be proved the FBI knowingly presented false information as true.

    memo doesn't remotely sat that.
     
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  2. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    all hell has broken lose in the stock markets.

    will the don keep claiming he is a huge success and drove them up now.
     
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  3. Angry_Physics

    Angry_Physics Well-Known Member

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    What are you reading?
    "one of the sources"? It involves several FBI agents including just resigned Jim Rybicki
    Then there is FBI agents Peter Strzok and Lisa Page and the text messages, including talking about an insurance policy if Hillary doesn't win, and tons of anti Trump comments.

    Peter Strzok and Jim Rybicki are the people who changed the determination against Hillary over the emails from criminal to non criminal.

    Peter Strzok was also on Meuller's investigation into the "collusion" until the texts appeared and Meuller fired him


    Now to Trump and the "Russian hacks"
    Crowdstrike and FusionGPS, are a joke, two sham companies. Their stories are nonsense and dissolve under even minimal chronological and technical analysis.


    Crowdstrike was hooked on a Nigerian scam operation and FusionGPS was just fabricating plain and simple, they (FusionGPS) produced the Steele dossier for the Clintons.

    Bruce G. Ohr was at DOJ the associate deputy attorney general
    He did not disclose that he met people who would later produce the Dossier, Bruce has been demoted.
    Interesting still, Bruce G. Ohr's wife worked for the opposition research firm that produced the research, last year. She was paid by Fusion GPS through the summer and fall of 2016
    There is two connections between Obama's DOJ and FusionGPS

    Then lets not forget someone at the FBI leaked that Bill Clinton met with DOJ Loretta Lynch on Clinton's plane, shortly before Hillary is cleared.

    All of these same people almost are involved in the Russia cack.

    The FISA court seems to have been lied to by the Obama administration going by the FISA memos.
    All relevant information must be provided by the government when seeking a warrant, even if it is good for the target of the warrant's case.
    New cause must be given every 90 days for renewal

    According to the Memos released, the courts were fed half truths and in the case of the steele dossier, complete lies both within the document and the fact that the required second source of info (a yahoo news story about same was used) but that second source was actually Steele himself, who gave it to yahoo News as anonymous.

    Also the FISA court was not told it was unverified oppo research, and that some of it came from Foreign state entities, two things the court absolutely should have been told.

    This is not just about the FBI, and it was only a handful of people at the FBI, this is pretty much worse than watergate if it is what it looks like. Obama admin, DOJ FBI Hillary Democrats all seeking to attack the political opposition, using the state organs to do it in a criminal at worst illegal at best,
    fashion

    FYI Comey's boss's wife got 1 million from the Democrats to start her political career,

    But.. we don't like Trump or something ;)
     
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  4. DirtyFrank

    DirtyFrank Well-Known Member

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    It's ok... he's having his third Reich parade....that'll cheer his supporters up.
     
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  5. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    I believe there's now common ground to build on with north korea

    Apparently its treason in both countries to not applaud the glorious leader.
     
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  6. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    I see the tories are in panic mode as Soros targets the real power behind the conservatives.

    Yes Soros has had meetings with major party donors in an effort to stoke an anti brexit move.

    The reality is the weirdos like johnson have ZERO interest in anything but themselves and their own aspirations on power and fully expect the gravy train of parliament wages and donations to thier party to sustain their lavish lifestyles

    If the funds are cut the poloticking will soon turn.

    Theresa May is the oddest fish of all. Clearly a remainer and there she is pushing every lunatic agenda along just to ohld onto the power that fell into her lap as a compromise candidate. Her lack of any morals or principles is stark in my view.
     
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  7. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    She's a ****ing politician. Modern politicians of any hue are totally devoid of morals.
     
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  8. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    seems to be the case
     
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  9. Angry_Physics

    Angry_Physics Well-Known Member

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    She is worse than that, she is owned by the Intelligence apparatus.

    It's her you have to thank for everything you do and say on the internet being stored by the government.
     
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  10. Angry_Physics

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    Interesting, by the 4th FISA renewal application the FBI had fired Steele for lying and knew they couldn't verify dossier.

    As it turns out the FBI never told the FISA court the document was unverified and in part proven false.

    Obama State department spokesperson Marie Harf claimed in July 2017 the Steele dossier was definitely NOT used to obtain a FISA warrant, another patent falsehood from the Obama administration.

    What you think of the orange moron is a separate matter, what is apparent now is Obama used the state organs to attack political opponents of the Democrat party.
    Liberal media just don't want to accept what Obama has done is worse than what Nixon did

    Obama has form, he used the IRS to target tea party members.
    In Targeting Political Groups, I.R.S. Crossed Party Lines
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/05/us/politics/irs-targeting-tea-party-liberals-democrats.html

    This is what voting in marxists gets you
     
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  11. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    they are all up to all sorts in yank land.

    that system is fundamentally flawed as theres far too much money and then politicians are tied to that money. the worst law ever was allowing this to occur and i think it was done by reagan?
     
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  12. Angry_Physics

    Angry_Physics Well-Known Member

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    Indeed, almost impenetrable.


    This is from the documents on FISA warrant applications
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    The HQ supervisor did sign off on the application despite the dossier not being verified and in one case, completely false.

    This whole Muh Russia thing is one vast tin foil hat conspiracy theory, only met in ridiculousness levels by the claims Russia caused the Brexit vote to win.
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Its patently obvious to anyone how brexit won.

    a) rampant racism, primarally aimed at polish people and how dare they have their own shops here.

    b) ill feeling to EU stoked by decades of murdoch style reporting on bendy bananas and the pounds and ounces being removed.

    c) blatent lies by johnson especially on the NHS. that was a catch all for the feelings. It must be the EU to blame for austerity and depreviation not the tories and the banks etc. throw out a line about how much the eu take and how much could be given to the NHS (the fatted calf of british nationalism since 1945) even if its a proven lie and outright wrong immediately. IT didn't matter it was the mantra

    There no way russian interference on a facebook ads level did anything there.


    however in america its a different story as russia was mainly just being russia but the trumps and their camp fell over themselves to break laws in their niavity. The proven links to russians are there, its just obvious law breaking but the yanks who should have known better to say no. I fail to see how that is evil form russia to seek to get ties into the trump administration as thats good for russia.

    a lot of it is excuse making by democrats etc as they can't accpet the defeat and want an excuse to look away from themselves as to why it happened. THey need to look hard at themselves and the states that flipped.

    With respect to the democrats... trump spotted the key swing states and was all over them compared to clinton. He did more and said more to convince the idiots to vote for him for "change" Theres no way russian adverts changed that either.

    Trump was on the ground in those 3 key states. hillary was busy fainting and playing the woman card and the rust belt didn't see anything but the wife of the guy who closed their industry.
     
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  14. Angry_Physics

    Angry_Physics Well-Known Member

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    sorry but your Brexit analysis is utter bollocks mate, straight from the BBC and Guardian ffs

    Economics
    Self determination\immigration

    Your claim British society is racist to that degree, hang your head in shame.

    Also the bogus reporting? are you challenged? most UK media is rabidly pro EU


    According to facebook Russian accounts spend 73 pence on ads.
    yet the Tories have an investigation going spending millions of pounds on it probably, that is not Russia winning, that is self defeatism
     
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  15. Angry_Physics

    Angry_Physics Well-Known Member

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    I do find it funny how recently US liberal media is taking sides with North Korea against their own administration, that is how mentally ill the progressive left is. I am a lefty, always have been, but this new postmodern left is mentally ill, seriously.


    This, about a state that starves and murders its own population

    North Korea is winning the Olympics --and it's not because of sports
    https://edition.cnn.com/2018/02/09/asia/south-korea-north-korea-spotlight-fight-intl/index.html

    North Korea accuses US President Trump of being "selfish" over Paris climate pact



    Dandong is a city on the banks of the Yalu River, which separates China and North Korea. It's been a key trading hub for decades, but now, it's suffering as US President Trump presses Chinese President Xi Jinping to squeeze North Korea's sources of revenue


    Un's sister is second in command of the North Korean propaganda and "right speak" department that has it's hands drenched in blood.

    Kim Jong-un’s Sister Turns On the Charm, Taking Pence’s Spotlight

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/11/...&gwh=1AFBFBF8D3AEE838FA5ACFA500A3AE65&gwt=pay
    No Handshakes as Pence Avoids Kim Jong-un’s Sister at Olympics
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/09/us/politics/pence-north-korea-olympics.html?mtrref=www.google.fi&gwh=8BE58D26ADF5A59E54CEB60F237558A0&gwt=pay


    Social Media Shudders After Trump Mocks North Korea’s ‘Button’

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/03/world/asia/trump-tweet-button-north-korea.html?mtrref=www.google.fi&gwh=21A3AAD703B6C516C7C0B61DFA898DD5&gwt=pay

    There is far more of this, I only scratched the surface

    licking Un's balls to get at your own government. Orange moron or not, it's disgusting and warped

    The only reason North Korea is now playing ball is because of how the US has recently dealt with them, Un now believes there is a madman in the Whitehouse who wont take his crap.

    he may be right, but still it brought the little ****** to the table








     
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  16. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    no mate sadly its true.

    everywhere is racists to some extent

    have you ever read the daily mail :)

    just saying.

    there is a reason katie hopkins and nigel farage get airtime.... again sadly.

    I mean I never said it was any worse than say france or places where far right are springing up in mainland europe. I am just pointing out the under current <ok>
     
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    It's not true, you've been reading ****, you sound like Kick It Out, ffs, check yourself.

    You think London being the per capita acid attack capital in the world is racism?
    You think the immigrant grooming gangs are racism? 1400 girls over years from one alone, 10s of thousands of girls have been raped and assaulted by these gangs over the past 20 years.
    The stream of terror attacks
    The UK's blasphemy laws (hashed as hate crimes). Can't offend Muslims or you go to jail, but you can **** on Christians and Jews (labour party)

    50+ times Britain was against EU regulations 50+ times it was forced on Britain anyway.

    Whole British industries destroyed by EU regulations
    85% of them come from the EU

    The EU commission is completely unaccountable, and led by an alcoholic.
    The EU parliament is lipstick on a democratic pig

    What ever crap you are reading, stop now.

    The daily mail has **** writers and good ones, for example some journos write for the Sunday Times, and other papers as well as the mail. The fact you just lump them all under the Mail banner shows you don't even know what you are talking about. David Rose for example, is a good journalist for the most part, he writes for the Mail among others

    The Guardian is socialist cancer, as is the Indo, major fake news sites, the mail as a lot of pure bollocks as well, but everything you read on the Independent is bollocks, every single article
     
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  18. Angry_Physics

    Angry_Physics Well-Known Member

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    Yeah cos army parades are so third reich
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    If I remember correctly, it was you who said "we should have kept the boot on the Arabs' neck"

    If I was like you I would call that racist, I suspect you don't like "Arabs".. <whistle>
     
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