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What we can see in this poll, that you missed, is an ideological clash against reality that has nothing to do with racism and xenophobia.
For example, the feminist\identity politics movement is utterly destructive to the fabric of society.

No one says immigration is bad bar a few loons.
What are the points?
*Where people immigrate from...
*how many immigrate
*are they vetted
*what impact does it have on society
*are their values compatible with ours
Just like with the "pay gap" no one on the left wants to look at any multi-varied analysis of why it exists, they just want to blame sexism.

People like you and ideological leftists don't want to answer these questions. You want to just throw around labels and slants.. based on beliefs supported by thin air
 
The track record of immigrants from rotten Arfi
Not arsed, I call a prick a prick, and you’re a prick.

Who’s now going on ignore, as I’m not interested in your view on anything.

Have a nice day <ok>


Strange post. Uncivil and civil. <laugh>
 
What I can say about the progressive left today is, it is the most lucky privileged generation in human history and it constantly moans about everything and can tolerate no disagreement whatsoever without getting all frothy and throwing angry insults.
 
Trump blames the kids for getting shot despite the NRA lobbying meaning everything the shooter did was legal up to 1 second before the first death

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Trump blames the kids for getting shot despite the NRA lobbying meaning everything the shooter did was legal up to 1 second before the first death

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Still the same lunatic lol.
Trump said..
"So many signs that the Florida shooter was mentally disturbed, even expelled from school for bad and erratic behavior. Neighbors and classmates knew he was a big problem. Must always report such instances to authorities, again and again"


OK so the details.
Everyone at the school (teachers and students) knew he was unhinged and knew he owned guns and had a weird unhealthy obsession.
He was reported to the FBI in Sept 2017 for posting online (with his real name) that he wanted to be a professional school shooter.
He was a registered gun owner
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The FBI did nothing, the School did nothing, no one did nothing.

This guy was a shooter case a mile off and was posting online that he wanted to do it.

Given the high sensitivity on this subject, this guy should have been picked up by the FBI last year.
They claimed "they couldn't" find him.

In the US social media will provide all of the details of his account and IP the lot. There is no evidence he tried to hide his identity and he is a registered gun owner, as in they had his name and his gun registration to compare, then his IP address

I could have ****ing found him with that info, the FBI never looked into it. Too busy looking for Russians maybe, who knows
but Trump or something
 
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I save my abuse for Trump for actual things he does wrong.

Otherwise all this fake hysteria takes away from anything really bad he does, when he does something actually proper bad, it will "just be another thing on the list " and no one will really give a ****.

When "everyone I don't like is "Hitler"", when a real Hitler comes along, no one will realise it
 
I'm reading the Mueller indictments in the original PDF-legalease format. All the way through, because I'm not a Republican member of Congress and think this is actually important.
This information warfare campaign was SO. WELL. ORGANIZED. Part of me is like, "Yo, this is great digital marketing." The other part is like, "THIS IS HORRIBLE AND HOW CAN YOU TRUST ANYTHING ANYMORE??!"
you got identity theft...
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on-the-ground recon and intelligence gathering...
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solid management structure. somebody went to business school!
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I mean, the Russians literally called it "information warfare." They're like, "Yo, we gonna do some crimes. Who's in?"
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Mission. Accomplished.
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Look at how they hid the money! All these LLCs. It's like they read the playbook on How To Be A New York Real Estate Developer And Remain Hidden With No Accountability For Your Actions.
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Nice to see that the conspiracy of the Russians has now been fully endorsed by the Republican Party.
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The Russians didn't show up with arrogance and lack of preparations. They did their homework. Digital and IRL. They tracked online metrics. They learned our political language.
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they exploited our open wounds. Facilitated by Zuckerberg's mammoth birthday reminder service and surveillance/influence machine.
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It's like the Russians took two great U.S. innovations: advertising and marketing, and turned it against us with analytical rigor. "The americans lie to themselves all the time. they won't notice if we join them."
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They used the fake IDs and money to buy US server space, set up VPNs from Russia, so all this looked like local traffic. SMART. They set up email accounts in the US & used those to recruit and amplify their messages through media. SMART. I feel like the DNC should have done this.
and look at this. They SOMEHOW got a bunch of social security numbers and used those to do more fake ****. They could have gotten those from almost anywhere thanks to weak ass security by everyone mining our personal data. Hello Equifax, Target, LinkedIn, US Government!
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They criticized all candidates "except Sanders and Trump." Serious question: has Bernie Sanders ever acknowledged his online support being amplified by the Russians and said he didn't welcome it?
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and of course they used the pain of black folks cause why not? We're always exploitable. O hai Jill Stein! I see you!
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I'd heard about the fake rallies that became real rallies, but I didn't know they basically ran a TaskRabbit system, paying people to stage theatrical demonstrations. Reminds me of the book Daemon which you should read. Too much to get into it now.
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And then the Russians did dumb **** like write emails to family members about how they were VERY BUSY COVERING UP THEIR CRIMES.
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Ok now i've hit a long section around pages 26 and on, and it's an itemized list which basically comes down to: "Facebook was an instrumental weapon in this one-sided information war."
Incredible. The Russians used stolen identities to open real bank and paypal accounts to pay for fake ads ad fake rallies and to CHARGE REAL AMERICANS money to promote their political messages on the now-popular fake Russian Facebook pages. Brilliant business.
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OH SNAP YALL. They saved the best part for last. The US Government "will seek forfeiture as part of any sentence!!!" They're gonna use drug dealer laws and TAKE YOUR RUSSIAN SUVs AND THAT HOUSE YOU BOUGHT YOUR MOMMA!
Ok. I made it through the indictment. Yes I was hoping to see Donald Trump Jr's stupid face in there proving he was knowingly wiring money to the Russians. Didn't get that. Instead found a more frightening reality: we got hacked bigtime. Based on known vulnerabilities.
We build a giant deception machine called marketing and advertising, and an adversary used it against us.
We build a giant influence machine called social media, and an adversary used it against us.
We left open, unreconciled divisions in our society, and an adversary used it against us.
We weakened our press such that all the phony conflict inspired by this information warfare campaign was reported in real-time with little to no vetting, and an adversary used it against us.
We allowed our democracy to become so corrupted by money and self-serving, power-hungry folks that we already didn't trust it, and an adversary used it against us.
If the election had turned out differently, would we even know half of what we do? We only got Robert Mueller because Trump is president but also bad at wielding his power.
And even though the Russians amplified divisions to be greater than they are, those divisions are real now. There is a basic level of trust we have to have in our environment to act appropriately, and that's severely broken.
On top of that, one-half of the political establishment (the republican half) is completely uninterested in acknowledging, investigating, or responding to this sophisticated act of information warfare. They've done NOTHING to prepare us for the next campaign.
The president still hasn't imposed the Russia sanctions that Congress passed overwhelmingly. And everybody's just acting like, "Meh. TRUMP WILL BE TRUMP! Undermining national security is just his THING ya know?"
And Facebook. Oh Facebook. So happy to monetize the destruction of our civil fabric. They made $7B in the 3rd quarter of 2016. Zuckerberg smugly said 99% of posts are "authentic." We cannot trust this company to do what's best for us. Not just FB btw.
Baratunde Thurston


Interesting read.
 
Acccording to
I'm reading the Mueller indictments in the original PDF-legalease format. All the way through, because I'm not a Republican member of Congress and think this is actually important.
This information warfare campaign was SO. WELL. ORGANIZED. Part of me is like, "Yo, this is great digital marketing." The other part is like, "THIS IS HORRIBLE AND HOW CAN YOU TRUST ANYTHING ANYMORE??!"
you got identity theft...
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on-the-ground recon and intelligence gathering...
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solid management structure. somebody went to business school!
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I mean, the Russians literally called it "information warfare." They're like, "Yo, we gonna do some crimes. Who's in?"
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Mission. Accomplished.
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Look at how they hid the money! All these LLCs. It's like they read the playbook on How To Be A New York Real Estate Developer And Remain Hidden With No Accountability For Your Actions.
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Nice to see that the conspiracy of the Russians has now been fully endorsed by the Republican Party.
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The Russians didn't show up with arrogance and lack of preparations. They did their homework. Digital and IRL. They tracked online metrics. They learned our political language.
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You must log in or register to see images

they exploited our open wounds. Facilitated by Zuckerberg's mammoth birthday reminder service and surveillance/influence machine.
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It's like the Russians took two great U.S. innovations: advertising and marketing, and turned it against us with analytical rigor. "The americans lie to themselves all the time. they won't notice if we join them."
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They used the fake IDs and money to buy US server space, set up VPNs from Russia, so all this looked like local traffic. SMART. They set up email accounts in the US & used those to recruit and amplify their messages through media. SMART. I feel like the DNC should have done this.
and look at this. They SOMEHOW got a bunch of social security numbers and used those to do more fake ****. They could have gotten those from almost anywhere thanks to weak ass security by everyone mining our personal data. Hello Equifax, Target, LinkedIn, US Government!
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They criticized all candidates "except Sanders and Trump." Serious question: has Bernie Sanders ever acknowledged his online support being amplified by the Russians and said he didn't welcome it?
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and of course they used the pain of black folks cause why not? We're always exploitable. O hai Jill Stein! I see you!
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I'd heard about the fake rallies that became real rallies, but I didn't know they basically ran a TaskRabbit system, paying people to stage theatrical demonstrations. Reminds me of the book Daemon which you should read. Too much to get into it now.
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And then the Russians did dumb **** like write emails to family members about how they were VERY BUSY COVERING UP THEIR CRIMES.
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Ok now i've hit a long section around pages 26 and on, and it's an itemized list which basically comes down to: "Facebook was an instrumental weapon in this one-sided information war."
Incredible. The Russians used stolen identities to open real bank and paypal accounts to pay for fake ads ad fake rallies and to CHARGE REAL AMERICANS money to promote their political messages on the now-popular fake Russian Facebook pages. Brilliant business.
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OH SNAP YALL. They saved the best part for last. The US Government "will seek forfeiture as part of any sentence!!!" They're gonna use drug dealer laws and TAKE YOUR RUSSIAN SUVs AND THAT HOUSE YOU BOUGHT YOUR MOMMA!
Ok. I made it through the indictment. Yes I was hoping to see Donald Trump Jr's stupid face in there proving he was knowingly wiring money to the Russians. Didn't get that. Instead found a more frightening reality: we got hacked bigtime. Based on known vulnerabilities.
We build a giant deception machine called marketing and advertising, and an adversary used it against us.
We build a giant influence machine called social media, and an adversary used it against us.
We left open, unreconciled divisions in our society, and an adversary used it against us.
We weakened our press such that all the phony conflict inspired by this information warfare campaign was reported in real-time with little to no vetting, and an adversary used it against us.
We allowed our democracy to become so corrupted by money and self-serving, power-hungry folks that we already didn't trust it, and an adversary used it against us.
If the election had turned out differently, would we even know half of what we do? We only got Robert Mueller because Trump is president but also bad at wielding his power.
And even though the Russians amplified divisions to be greater than they are, those divisions are real now. There is a basic level of trust we have to have in our environment to act appropriately, and that's severely broken.
On top of that, one-half of the political establishment (the republican half) is completely uninterested in acknowledging, investigating, or responding to this sophisticated act of information warfare. They've done NOTHING to prepare us for the next campaign.
The president still hasn't imposed the Russia sanctions that Congress passed overwhelmingly. And everybody's just acting like, "Meh. TRUMP WILL BE TRUMP! Undermining national security is just his THING ya know?"
And Facebook. Oh Facebook. So happy to monetize the destruction of our civil fabric. They made $7B in the 3rd quarter of 2016. Zuckerberg smugly said 99% of posts are "authentic." We cannot trust this company to do what's best for us. Not just FB btw.
Baratunde Thurston


Interesting read.


Yep well organised
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...ians-spent-just-73-pence-ads-brexit-campaign/

Facebook: Russians spent just 73p on adverts during Brexit campaign


Stanford Study Finds Fake News Didn’t Tip Election Against Clinton
Ironically, the most widely believed fake news stories were those that benefited her

http://observer.com/2017/02/stanford-study-fake-news-hillary-clinton-election-loss/
<laugh>

https://news.stanford.edu/2017/01/18/stanford-study-examines-fake-news-2016-presidential-election/
"Fabricated stories favoring Donald Trump were shared a total of 30 million times, nearly quadruple the number of pro-Hillary Clinton shares leading up to the election, according to Stanford economist Matthew Gentzkow. Even so, he and his co-author find that the most widely circulated hoaxes were seen by only a small fraction of Americans."


Throw in absolutely 0 evidence, and your post's quoted rambling is really just rambling, unsubstantiated and well, nonsense, baseless nonsense. :D
 
Chuck Schumer pretends to cry now when someone says "illegal immigrant"
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Trump derangement syndrome is alive and well, as is political amnesia
 
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/17/two-state-solution-one-trump-rightwing-zionists

Trump is in the pocket of the Zionists......as well as the fossil fuel industry, the NRA...etc...

Fossil fuel industry <laugh> <laugh>

Trump's got so much money he's in no one's pocket.

Yep he is def Israel cosy, that is for sure, Frank calls him a Nazi, except his daughter is Jewish as is her husband, strange that :D
The move of the US embassy was sick, and a clear sign which side his bread is buttered on, on that matter Tobes


but fossil fuels? Obama waged war on coal, Hillary said during her campaign, "We're gonna put a lot of coal workers out of work".
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Obama stated quite openly that his policies would triple energy costs (those on lowest incomes get hammered)
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the poorest in America pay the highest % of income on energy, and everywhere.
The war on coal is a war on the poor, a war in industry and so a war on jobs. (Trump's campaign all along was to create jobs and bring industry back, so no shilling there mate) Whether he does it over the next 4 years is up for debate but he has brought back manufacturing so far.

Total primary energy supply TPES
Renewable energy numbers
Wind and Solar combined 0.7%
Tide and geothermal 0.8%
Hydro 2.1%
BURNING WOOD GARBAGE AND DUNG 9.4%


Burning **** is 75% of renewable primary use globally.

Germany is renewable crazy with wind, German energy prices are 54% taxes and fees to pay for wind farms and the subsidies the wind companies get, and land owners who get paid to host farms.