Bush Clinton Obama Trump, nothing changes. 
US military currently occupying East Syrian oil fields depriving Syrians of their own resources
US military currently occupying East Syrian oil fields depriving Syrians of their own resources
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Bush Clinton Obama Trump, nothing changes.
US military currently occupying East Syrian oil fields depriving Syrians of their own resources
Now you are talking....
You might as well list the full lot all the way back there.
Yes indeed MITO, nothing changes
Interestingly
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A carbon copy of today
Its a pure who's camp are you in game. IMO.
Turkey have been let away with literal murder why? mostly in the pockets of the west and buy western arms etc.
Syria, aligned with russia historically and today.
yet the focus is on russian hacking of brexit
You don’t live here, and your summation is both ignorant and ill informed.
Most UK media isn’t pro EU at all, the far right media has bigger circulation and has been beating the anti EU, anti immigrant drum for years and years now.
The Brexit vote and the reasons people gave for doing so proved that there most definitely still is a xenophobic and racist element alive and kicking in this country, as people were asked for their reasons post the vote.
It played a big part in the result, without a question of a doubt. The Daily Nazi, the Excess and Nigel ****ing Farage did a fine job of whipping up good old fashioned bigotry.
Its a pure who's camp are you in game. IMO.
Turkey have been let away with literal murder why? mostly in the pockets of the west and buy western arms etc.
Syria, aligned with russia historically and today.
yet the focus is on russian hacking of brexit
Those pesky Russians
****s made my coffee cold too!
"You don’t live here, and your summation is both ignorant and ill informed."
Doesn't really mean anything, once I can read, once I know many there, I read and watch the media, it is fair to say I can get a jist. Fallacious argument, arrogant and nonsensical.
Blame Farrage? who are you ? Hillary Clinton?
"most UK media isn’t pro EU at all, the far right media has bigger circulation and has been beating the anti EU, anti immigrant drum for years and years now."
Every centrist and left wing publication is pro EU, as is the left and central and even much of the right in politics are pro EU. You must be reading more right wing stuff than left.
Academia is pro EU (lots of their funding comes from the EU)
"The Brexit vote and the reasons people gave for doing so proved that there most definitely still is a xenophobic and racist element alive and kicking in this country, as people were asked for their reasons post the vote."
17 million people voted leave, and there is no empirical evidence that it was xenophobia. None.
What there is plenty of measurable evidence for is people's rejection of an unaccountable commission, EU economic policies and regulations forced on member states and failing services do to crazy immigration rates. (lets not even get into terror, gangs and acid attacks and all the other stuff like that)
Baseless claims Tobes, baseless.
Tobes I am an immigrant. I still think mass immigration is a disastrous policy.
demographics always change, but they do so historically at slow rates. All fast demographic changes are disastrous and extremely problematic
What is happening in the EU is a rapid decadal scale demographic shift between cultures with starkly contrasting values.
It's happening too fast, and the impacts are massive.
Sweden, my neighbor is a lesson for all on this matter. According to the UN itself, the country is set to be ranked with 3rd world banana republics by 2030 at its current trajectory on the Human Development Index
http://ww.rrojasdatabank.info/HDRP_2010_40.pdf
Sweden was top of the world in HDI 2 decades ago.
The UK is an inherently different situation, the commonwealth and so on, is not comparable to Sweden, but the EU is, Germany for example, even Merkel says Turkish mass immigration was a disaster and yet.
re the UK, watching services strain and collapse, and seeing such a demographic shift in such a short time, half of london is non native Brit, it causes stresses especially when cultures clash. Your culture and heritage is your identity, and wanting to retain that is not xenophobic, racist or nationalist.
Yes there are plenty of moronic bigots. 17 million of them? not on your life mate.
demographics always change, but they do so historically at slow rates. All fast demographic changes are disastrous and extremely problematic
What is happening in the EU is a rapid decadal scale demographic shift between cultures with starkly contrasting values.
It's happening too fast, and the impacts are massive.
Sweden, my neighbor is a lesson for all on this matter. According to the UN itself, the country is set to be ranked with 3rd world banana republics by 2030 at its current trajectory on the Human Development Index
http://ww.rrojasdatabank.info/HDRP_2010_40.pdf
Sweden was top of the world in HDI 2 decades ago.
The UK is an inherently different situation, the commonwealth and so on, is not comparable to Sweden, but the EU is, Germany for example, even Merkel says Turkish mass immigration was a disaster and yet.
re the UK, watching services strain and collapse, and seeing such a demographic shift in such a short time, half of london is non native Brit, it causes stresses especially when cultures clash. Your culture and heritage is your identity, and wanting to retain that is not xenophobic, racist or nationalist.
Yes there are plenty of moronic bigots. 17 million of them? not on your life mate.
You read what you choose to read, you have zero experience of what people actually have said on the issue here in Day to day life, and you’re plain wrong however much you squeal."You don’t live here, and your summation is both ignorant and ill informed."
Doesn't really mean anything, once I can read, once I know many there, I read and watch the media, it is fair to say I can get a jist. Fallacious argument, arrogant and nonsensical.
Blame Farrage? who are you ? Hillary Clinton?
"most UK media isn’t pro EU at all, the far right media has bigger circulation and has been beating the anti EU, anti immigrant drum for years and years now."
Every centrist and left wing publication is pro EU, as is the left and central and even much of the right in politics are pro EU. You must be reading more right wing stuff than left.
Academia is pro EU (lots of their funding comes from the EU)
"The Brexit vote and the reasons people gave for doing so proved that there most definitely still is a xenophobic and racist element alive and kicking in this country, as people were asked for their reasons post the vote."
17 million people voted leave, and there is no empirical evidence that it was xenophobia. None.
What there is plenty of measurable evidence for is people's rejection of an unaccountable commission, EU economic policies and regulations forced on member states and failing services do to crazy immigration rates. (lets not even get into terror, gangs and acid attacks and all the other stuff like that)
Baseless claims Tobes, baseless.
There’s plenty of empirical evidence that immigration was a key issue in the result, not to mention May stating it and basing her ‘red lines’ for the negotiations with immigration a total its core.
Pure ignorance and delusion to suggest otherwise. It wasn’t the only issue but it played a big part.
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You tube videos are so lol
What I really find interesting is when I was last on here, I was calling the UK institutionally racist and full of racists and you were calling me a loony.
Now it is reversed
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There’s plenty of empirical evidence that immigration was a key issue in the result, not to mention May stating it and basing her ‘red lines’ for the negotiations with immigration a total its core."
You said xenophobia not immigration
Where is it?
I see you also failed to refute any of my points, queue "not worth replying to" or some such..
"You read what you choose to read, you have zero experience of what people actually have said on the issue here in Day to day life, and you’re plain wrong however much you squeal."
Such comments are driven by some sort of emotionally driven neurosis, where what you think is projected onto others.
I can post some published literature on that if you like to back it up
Such comments are driven by some sort of emotionally driven neurosis, where what you think is projected onto others.
I can post some published literature on that if you like to back it up
Here’s the post vote Ashcroft (raving Brexiteer) poll on people’s voting reasonsYou tube videos are so lol
What I really find interesting is when I was last on here, I was calling the UK institutionally racist and full of racists and you were calling me a loony.
Now it is reversed
"
There’s plenty of empirical evidence that immigration was a key issue in the result, not to mention May stating it and basing her ‘red lines’ for the negotiations with immigration a total its core."
You said xenophobia not immigration
Where is it?
Feel free to educate yourself, and note the stat that 80% of Leave voters thought immigration was a force for ill, and take note of the age demographics as well love x
That’s all, bye
https://lordashcroftpolls.com/2016/06/how-the-united-kingdom-voted-and-why/
Projection turns neurotic or moral anxiety into reality anxiety, which is easier to deal with. Projection is a common attribute of paranoia, where people project dislike or ideas onto others
hmmm
hmmm
**** off you sanctimonious idiot, you’re an Irish Finn who hasn’t got any experience of what the people here think barring what youve chosen to read."You read what you choose to read, you have zero experience of what people actually have said on the issue here in Day to day life, and you’re plain wrong however much you squeal."
Such comments are driven by some sort of emotionally driven neurosis, where what you think is projected onto others.
I can post some published literature on that if you like to back it up
See above btw.
I see you haevn't changed or grown as a human being one bit in 3 years.
Claims I only read what I want, then looks for something, the first link actually, that agrees with you, except the poll says multiculturalism, you said xenophobia. I detailed the issues with multiculturalism pushed over short time spans
Plus, my post above deals with rapid demographic shift and cultural conflict as a result. None of which has anything to do with Xenophobia.
What is happening with immigration is, large numbers of 18 to 40 year old men from archaic societies with massively different cultural values are being imported in a very short time.
The effect of this has been a disaster.
London is the per capita acid attack capital of the world. That is because of immigration of large numbers of people who deem throwing acid in someone's face a valid thing to do.
"Surveyed 12,369 people" out of 34 million people who voted
Not empirical. You can't extrapolate 12000 to 34 million.
You never read the poll did you
The disparity in the poll
Some interesting results
"Most people with children aged ten or under voted to remain; most of those with children aged 11 or older voted to leave."
Dunno what to make of that, except maybe older kids are our there more and interact more with society.
"A majority of those working full-time or part-time voted to remain in the EU; most of those not working voted to leave. More than half of those retired on a private pension voted to leave, as did two thirds of those retired on a state pension."
^^ people who depend more on services to live, voted leave. Which shows the tragic state of services due to overload and prioritization towards certain groups is not xenophobia.
"A majority (57%) of those with a university degree voted to remain, as did 64% of those with a higher degree and more than four in five (81%) of those still in full time education. Among those whose formal education ended at secondary school or earlier, a large majority voted to leave."
Education is dominated by the left, so I am not surprised by this at all. Colleges and Unis are overwhelmingly staffed by left wing professors. (an observation)
Eight in ten British university lecturers are 'Left-wing', survey finds
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/educatio...-university-lecturers-left-wing-survey-finds/
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I would analyse this more but I am working.
Maybe later.
I just pity you now, you used to annoy me which was mostly my own issue, nothing to do with you.
You never read the link you posted. Standard Tobes fare
You always were a self obsessed, self righteous prick, and you still are. It appears you’ve wound back on the green but you’re still a prize tit.