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ON 23rd of June which way are you going to vote?.

  • IN

    Votes: 28 43.8%
  • OUT

    Votes: 34 53.1%
  • DON'T KNOW

    Votes: 4 6.3%

  • Total voters
    64
  • Poll closed .
well not surprised did think it was the most probable result.
Noticeable that turnout higher in Eng and Wales than Scotland and N Ireland so as others have said remain didn't get their vote out - though their abysmal campaign (excepting the last few days by which time it was too late ) didn't inspire much confidence to say the least.

EU is probably irrepeirably damaged and the economic damage to some of their Eurozone economies will push them back into recession.

The idea that people voted to leave because they were racist seems way too simplistic and fails to acknowledge the damage that an apparently never ending supply of cheap labour has done to wages and job conditions in large areas of the country - for example in the area where i live the 3rd largest employer opened a recruiting office in Poland and within 2 years all staff except managers and a few technical staff (who had to learn Polish so they could converse with the staff) were Polish. Why is anyone is surprised that breeds resentment ?

PS jeez Boris and Gove making speeches right now suddenly trying to sound statesmanlike and pro immigration.
They almost seem to think that they maybe room for another renegotiation
 
well not surprised did think it was the most probable result.
Noticeable that turnout higher in Eng and Wales than Scotland and N Ireland so as others have said remain didn't get their vote out - though their abysmal campaign (excepting the last few days by which time it was too late ) didn't inspire much confidence to say the least.

EU is probably irrepeirably damaged and the economic damage to some of their Eurozone economies will push them back into recession.

The idea that people voted to leave because they were racist seems way too simplistic and fails to acknowledge the damage that an apparently never ending supply of cheap labour has done to wages and job conditions in large areas of the country - for example in the area where i live the 3rd largest employer opened a recruiting office in Poland and within 2 years all staff except managers and a few technical staff (who had to learn Polish so they could converse with the staff) were Polish. Why is anyone is surprised that breeds resentment ?

PS jeez Boris and Gove making speeches right now suddenly trying to sound statesmanlike and pro immigration.
They almost seem to think that they maybe room for another renegotiation

So instead of Polish people working for low wages now English people can have even lower wage jobs. And no benefits when the recession means those jobs disappear completely.

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well not surprised did think it was the most probable result.
Noticeable that turnout higher in Eng and Wales than Scotland and N Ireland so as others have said remain didn't get their vote out - though their abysmal campaign (excepting the last few days by which time it was too late ) didn't inspire much confidence to say the least.

EU is probably irrepeirably damaged and the economic damage to some of their Eurozone economies will push them back into recession.

The idea that people voted to leave because they were racist seems way too simplistic and fails to acknowledge the damage that an apparently never ending supply of cheap labour has done to wages and job conditions in large areas of the country - for example in the area where i live the 3rd largest employer opened a recruiting office in Poland and within 2 years all staff except managers and a few technical staff (who had to learn Polish so they could converse with the staff) were Polish. Why is anyone is surprised that breeds resentment ?

PS jeez Boris and Gove making speeches right now suddenly trying to sound statesmanlike and pro immigration.
They almost seem to think that they maybe room for another renegotiation

Tbh, I'm not sure what Remain could really have done, they have so little to work with. "Everything's a bit **** but muddle on because it might be even ****ter if we change" isn't very inspiring.
Like I said a few days ago, it's easy to be in opposition, it's easy to point out where things are wrong (because there's always plenty wrong) and you don't really need to present a viable alternative.
It's why we have such a turnaround of government because people vote for change in the hopes that it's an improvement, but it seldom is.
So Leave only have to point out the big problems within the EU to get people on their side. They don't have to prove that they can do better.

As for the cheap labour issue - I'll be very interested to see if wages rise to attract indigenous workers to all those **** jobs the immigrants have been doing throughout my lifetime (we had the same argument decades ago with the Commonwealth immigrants).
Somehow I doubt it.
 
Corbyn on his way.

So let's look on the bright side.

The NHS will now become a world class service with all the extra money Brexit bods said could go into the service.

Schools will have smaller numbers and therefore have more money to spend on improving.

More jobs so unemployment will go down.

All things that Brexit built a campaign on so the pound will bounce back and it's a bright future.

Let's see.
 
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Tbh, I'm not sure what Remain could really have done, they have so little to work with. "Everything's a bit **** but muddle on because it might be even ****ter if we change" isn't very inspiring.
Like I said a few days ago, it's easy to be in opposition, it's easy to point out where things are wrong (because there's always plenty wrong) and you don't really need to present a viable alternative.
It's why we have such a turnaround of government because people vote for change in the hopes that it's an improvement, but it seldom is.
So Leave only have to point out the big problems within the EU to get people on their side. They don't have to prove that they can do better.

As for the cheap labour issue - I'll be very interested to see if wages rise to attract indigenous workers to all those **** jobs the immigrants have been doing throughout my lifetime (we had the same argument decades ago with the Commonwealth immigrants).
Somehow I doubt it.

If Cameron and Gideon hadn't kept promising Armageddon day after day which meant most people didn't believe the remain pitch as they just didn't believe the outlandish claims being made. The campaign was all negative but just look at the difference in the BBC debate when no London tories took part and remain are thought to have had the best of that debate. If Cameron and Gideon had stayed in the background and Corbyn had got off his arse they might have rescued the position.
 
No more wearing of veil.
Britain now a christian country.
If you do not agree with our culture, way to the door.
No more zero hour contract.
Maximum working hours per week remain unchanged.
23/06/ every year officially declared public holiday
Welcome to Republic of Britain. Yesterday was the independent date
 
No more wearing of veil.
Britain now a christian country.
If you do not agree with our culture, way to the door.
No more zero hour contract.
Maximum working hours per week remain unchanged.
23/06/ every year officially declared public holiday
Welcome to Republic of Britain. Yesterday was the independent date

<laugh> *****
 
Corbyn on his way.

So let's look on the bright side.

The NHS will now become a world class service with all the extra money Brexit bods said could go into the service.

Schools will have smaller numbers and therefore have more money to spend on improving.

More jobs so unemployment will go down.

All things that Brexit built a campaign on so the pound will bounce back and it's a bright future.

Let's see.
I was going to say something along these lines. <laugh>
It's always the same though, isn't it? Governments routinely fail to keep promises in their election manifesto, but never seem to get seriously called out for it.
If a private company failed to deliver on promises it had made then it would be open to legal action, but with politics it just seems everyone accepts it because that's how it is. It's fraudulent.
I wonder how it would go if someone brought a collective action against politicians for false promises? :)
 
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No more wearing of veil.
Britain now a christian country.
If you do not agree with our culture, way to the door.
No more zero hour contract.
Maximum working hours per week remain unchanged.
23/06/ every year officially declared public holiday
Welcome to Republic of Britain. Yesterday was the independent date

Ehhhhh Hhhmmmmmmm....

Just about everything there is actually wrong.
 
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As of now the market and exchange rate has levelled off. We've not seen a massive dip yet.

Next hurdle is usa markets opening and then Asia over night
All should fall.

After this there's a long period of uncertainty as things iron out and we must be watching those numbers.

The Scots appear hell bent on an immediate referendum before London negotiates so it can sit separate and milk europe.

NI seems to be going oh...... and nothing else.