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Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by LuisDiazgamechanger, May 27, 2016.

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ON 23rd of June which way are you going to vote?.

Poll closed Jun 26, 2016.
  1. IN

    28 vote(s)
    43.8%
  2. OUT

    34 vote(s)
    53.1%
  3. DON'T KNOW

    4 vote(s)
    6.3%
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  1. Zanjinho

    Zanjinho Boom!
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  2. Solid Air 2

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    well not surprised did think it was the most probable result.
    Noticeable that turnout higher in Eng and Wales than Scotland and N Ireland so as others have said remain didn't get their vote out - though their abysmal campaign (excepting the last few days by which time it was too late ) didn't inspire much confidence to say the least.

    EU is probably irrepeirably damaged and the economic damage to some of their Eurozone economies will push them back into recession.

    The idea that people voted to leave because they were racist seems way too simplistic and fails to acknowledge the damage that an apparently never ending supply of cheap labour has done to wages and job conditions in large areas of the country - for example in the area where i live the 3rd largest employer opened a recruiting office in Poland and within 2 years all staff except managers and a few technical staff (who had to learn Polish so they could converse with the staff) were Polish. Why is anyone is surprised that breeds resentment ?

    PS jeez Boris and Gove making speeches right now suddenly trying to sound statesmanlike and pro immigration.
    They almost seem to think that they maybe room for another renegotiation
     
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  3. Solid Air 2

    Solid Air 2 Well-Known Member

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    If the SNP get another referendum vote
    Ireland holds an all Ireland referendum

    How in Gods name are we going to get the sheep shaggers to stop leeching off us :bandit:
     
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  4. astro

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    So instead of Polish people working for low wages now English people can have even lower wage jobs. And no benefits when the recession means those jobs disappear completely.

    #racetothebottom
     
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  5. Solid Air 2

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    the race was already won as huge percentage of jobs round here are minimum wage / part time / zero hours / agency
     
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  6. LuisDiazgamechanger

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    England and Wales have many things in common that unite them
     
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  7. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    A dark day indeed. I'm ****ing mortified the nation has gone down this shocking route. You leave people will rue the ****ing day and so will we along with you. ****ing knobheads. <doh>
     
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  8. astro

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    Zero hours is a UK invention. Most workers' rights are by EU law. Mike Ashley might as well be appointed Chancellor now.
     
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    Tbh, I'm not sure what Remain could really have done, they have so little to work with. "Everything's a bit **** but muddle on because it might be even ****ter if we change" isn't very inspiring.
    Like I said a few days ago, it's easy to be in opposition, it's easy to point out where things are wrong (because there's always plenty wrong) and you don't really need to present a viable alternative.
    It's why we have such a turnaround of government because people vote for change in the hopes that it's an improvement, but it seldom is.
    So Leave only have to point out the big problems within the EU to get people on their side. They don't have to prove that they can do better.

    As for the cheap labour issue - I'll be very interested to see if wages rise to attract indigenous workers to all those **** jobs the immigrants have been doing throughout my lifetime (we had the same argument decades ago with the Commonwealth immigrants).
    Somehow I doubt it.
     
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    Like: they hate each other equally?
     
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  11. DirtyFrank

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    Boris Johnson dad sounds exactly like Boris ....lol
     
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  12. saintanton

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    I stopped watching long ago.
    15 seconds of that smug ****bag Farage gloating was enough to make me want to throw my telly out of the window.
     
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  13. luvgonzo

    luvgonzo Pisshead

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    Corbyn on his way.

    So let's look on the bright side.

    The NHS will now become a world class service with all the extra money Brexit bods said could go into the service.

    Schools will have smaller numbers and therefore have more money to spend on improving.

    More jobs so unemployment will go down.

    All things that Brexit built a campaign on so the pound will bounce back and it's a bright future.

    Let's see.
     
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  14. Solid Air 2

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    If Cameron and Gideon hadn't kept promising Armageddon day after day which meant most people didn't believe the remain pitch as they just didn't believe the outlandish claims being made. The campaign was all negative but just look at the difference in the BBC debate when no London tories took part and remain are thought to have had the best of that debate. If Cameron and Gideon had stayed in the background and Corbyn had got off his arse they might have rescued the position.
     
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  15. LuisDiazgamechanger

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    No more wearing of veil.
    Britain now a christian country.
    If you do not agree with our culture, way to the door.
    No more zero hour contract.
    Maximum working hours per week remain unchanged.
    23/06/ every year officially declared public holiday
    Welcome to Republic of Britain. Yesterday was the independent date
     
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  16. Null

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    <laugh> *****
     
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    I was going to say something along these lines. <laugh>
    It's always the same though, isn't it? Governments routinely fail to keep promises in their election manifesto, but never seem to get seriously called out for it.
    If a private company failed to deliver on promises it had made then it would be open to legal action, but with politics it just seems everyone accepts it because that's how it is. It's fraudulent.
    I wonder how it would go if someone brought a collective action against politicians for false promises? :)
     
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  18. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Ehhhhh Hhhmmmmmmm....

    Just about everything there is actually wrong.
     
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  19. LuisDiazgamechanger

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    Nigel Farage says Leave win marks UK 'independence day'
    How can Nigel Farage be wrong?.
     
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  20. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    As of now the market and exchange rate has levelled off. We've not seen a massive dip yet.

    Next hurdle is usa markets opening and then Asia over night
    All should fall.

    After this there's a long period of uncertainty as things iron out and we must be watching those numbers.

    The Scots appear hell bent on an immediate referendum before London negotiates so it can sit separate and milk europe.

    NI seems to be going oh...... and nothing else.
     
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