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ON 23rd of June which way are you going to vote?.

  • IN

    Votes: 28 43.8%

  • OUT

    Votes: 34 53.1%

  • DON'T KNOW

    Votes: 4 6.3%
  • Total voters
    64
  • Poll closed .
I have said this before but the racist argument is a bit of a smokescreen as some people refuse to accept that a large percentage of the population believes the current rate of rise in population (500,000 p.a.) is unsustainable which has nothing to do with colour of skin or faith of the immigrants.
I voted remain but know many well educated people who voted leave and they sure as hell are not racist

I'm bored with this now as it is just going round in circles
 
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InEnglandWeTrust said:
Who knows Saint who knows. Like I said, no one knows what the future holds. It may be good it may be bad.

End of the day, only live once so just enjoy the ride and not get too stressed and worries about things out of your control <ok>

Being in or out of EU won't change or stop me doing what I like doing day to day so
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I'm not trying to be insulting, and I hope you're right, but I'm afraid you might be being a little complacent, not to mention self-centred.
Are you immune in some way to the effects of recession, and even so, do you not have any interest in anything that doesn't directly affect you?
 
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Belgiuminho said:
The point is you shouldn't be calling them anything. They have as much right as anyone else to vote as they please and deserve respect no matter how they've voted!

I'll accept there are racists amongst the ranks but that doesn't apply to everyone.

I didn't vote but if I had I'd have probably gone with leave purely based on population numbers. I have no issue with multi national areas etc, I live in one. What I don't like is having to wait four weeks for a doctor's appointment or queuing for am hour to buy a packet of chewing gum! (I know it won't solve it)

The reason I didn't vote is because I didn't feel it knew enough about the consequences and I still don't. But others claiming this, that and the other will happen is as bad just ridiculous when politicians have said they don't know.
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That's exactly the kind of statement that permits fascism, just go with the rising tide and let it drown us until anybody who speaks out gets forced against a wall and shot, history is cyclical in nature. Aren't we in leaving the EU completely forgetting one of the initial urgent premises upon which it was founded after the second world war, to stabilise the continent in a time of crisis and prevent any totalitarian nationalism from ever rising again. We're swiftly succumbing to a dangerous rhetoric in this country, which is both ironic and sad given the pivotal role the UK has had since the mid-1940s in various territories at ending dictatorships, the Balkans for example

Not denying their right to vote at all, it's democracy in action of course, but the cauldron and conditions have been created by successive, cynical governments to drive people towards extreme, almost sectarian points of view
 
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Spanish Air said:
I have said this before but the racist argument is a bit of a smokescreen as some people refuse to accept that a large percentage of the population believes the current rate of rise in population (500,000 p.a.) is unsustainable which has nothing to do with colour of skin or faith of the immigrants.
I voted remain but know many well educated people who voted leave and they sure as hell are not racist

I'm bored with this now as it is just going round in circles
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Ok, I won't keep you. <laugh>
Just one thing, is the figure you quoted immigrants, or migrant workers? They're two different things and I don't know where you got your figures from. <ok>
 
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saintKlimt said:
Ok, I won't keep you. <laugh>
Just one thing, is the figure you quoted immigrants, or migrant workers? They're two different things and I don't know where you got your figures from. <ok>
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the figure is the official figures for rise in population which includes immigration - you have to remember there has also been a baby boom in the last decade which is now tailing off

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36605899
 
saintKlimt said:
I'm not trying to be insulting, and I hope you're right, but I'm afraid you might be being a little complacent, not to mention self-centred.
Are you immune in some way to the effects of recession, and even so, do you not have any interest in anything that doesn't directly affect you?
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There will always be jobs.
 
Spanish Air said:
the figure is the official figures for rise in population which includes immigration - you have to remember there has also been a baby boom in the last decade which is now tailing off

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36605899
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That still doesn't say if it includes migrant workers - who usually bugger off again after a bit.
I might look into it out of interest, but I haven't time now.
I still don't think that our exit will have as much an effect on that as is being touted. Part of the problem is people living longer.
We should get rid of all old peo....
....Oh, hang on.
 
Deathmetaldruid said:
That's exactly the kind of statement that permits fascism, just go with the rising tide and let it drown us until anybody who speaks out gets forced against a wall and shot, history is cyclical in nature. Aren't we in leaving the EU completely forgetting one of the initial urgent premises upon which it was founded after the second world war, to stabilise the continent in a time of crisis and prevent any totalitarian nationalism from ever rising again. We're swiftly succumbing to a dangerous rhetoric in this country, which is both ironic and sad given the pivotal role the UK has had since the mid-1940s in various territories at ending dictatorships, the Balkans for example

Not denying their right to vote at all, it's democracy in action of course, but the cauldron and conditions have been created by successive, cynical governments to drive people towards extreme, almost sectarian points of view
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Way to miss the point <doh>

I'll put it in a simpler context for you; there is no need for insults!
 
Spanish Air said:
I have said this before but the racist argument is a bit of a smokescreen as some people refuse to accept that a large percentage of the population believes the current rate of rise in population (500,000 p.a.) is unsustainable which has nothing to do with colour of skin or faith of the immigrants.
I voted remain but know many well educated people who voted leave and they sure as hell are not racist

I'm bored with this now as it is just going round in circles
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