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Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by LuisDiazgamechanger, May 27, 2016.

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ON 23rd of June which way are you going to vote?.

Poll closed Jun 26, 2016.
  1. IN

    28 vote(s)
    43.8%
  2. OUT

    34 vote(s)
    53.1%
  3. DON'T KNOW

    4 vote(s)
    6.3%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Zingy

    Zingy #ziggywould

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    Yup. Either way, we are not going to be doomed. We won't become a 3rd world country. Life will go on. And I will be enjoying Glastonbury when the people are voting. I went as far as applying for postal voting online which required me to go post my application...I decided it was better time spent having a beer in the garden. <ok>
     
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  2. carlthejackal

    carlthejackal Well-Known Member

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    Don't you think you are dismissing people's fears about the economy too readily? If I am a young person, looking for work soon, the number of jobs available to me will be very important. Any recession will be bad news. It's all right for some to say " Grow a pair, will you?" even in the face of uncertainty. But these are real people with real lives to be lived and needing money to pay bills, mortgages, rents. Some of us older folks might be able to withstand a recession but not the young ones. They have to live longer with any negative consequences. Interesting that most young people (>75%) favour Remain whilst most of the older ones favour Brexit.
     
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  3. saintanton

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    I used to be apathetic but I can't be bothered anymore.
     
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  4. luvgonzo

    luvgonzo Pisshead

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    This brexit fiasco is all bout racism and xenophobia! Vote stay!
     
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  5. Tobes

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    Oh right....is this the EU in which our voice isn't heard then? The anti democratic one?

    <laugh>

    Listen, you've put into context where you are on this - as a retired lawyer drawing down his huge pension, sat in his mortgage free property, who fancies giving the 2 fingers to Johnny Foreigner and harking back to the days when Britain was 'great'.

    Let's go gung ho, **** the economic consequences....yeah mate, easy said from where you're perched. The rest of us are worried about interest rates, a potential property price slump, unemployment and years of economic uncertainty whilst we aim to re-position ourselves in the World trade arena.
     
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  6. Kifflom!

    Kifflom! Well-Known Member

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    I have two boys in their 20's. I understand concerns (and that's all they are) about what may happen. Neither can get on the housing ladder in the foreseeable future. My niece can't get her daughter into the closest school to where she lives. The classes there are running at 35 and the place is bursting. My son went to A&E recently and waited 6 hours - it was rammed.

    Now whether you accept these problems are down to the EU or not, mass uncontrolled immigration is definitely a factor and it cannot continue at this level - and it will get worse.
     
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  7. saintanton

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    You keep out of it, Taff. <whistle>
     
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  8. Zingy

    Zingy #ziggywould

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    You unpatriotic batard!
     
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  9. saintanton

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    And you don't believe we can change this from within?
    Remember we had significant so-called "immigration problems" before we ever joined.
    Is this really what your argument boils down to?
     
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  10. Kifflom!

    Kifflom! Well-Known Member

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    "drawing down his huge pension, sat in his mortgage free property," I wish. <laugh> Wrong on both counts. But you do like your stereotypes don't you? I actually love Europe and it's for that reason I'm saddened by what the EU is doing to its people. What it's doing to the Greeks is almost a crime against humanity. I also have some great friends in Egypt - all Muslim of course. I even speak some Arablic. Can you?

    Put your daft preconceptions out in the trash where they belong. <ok>
     
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  11. luvgonzo

    luvgonzo Pisshead

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    What has that got to do with anything?
     
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  12. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    I think it may mean he's on a watch list... back away now lads MI6 could be reading.

    sing GOD SAVE OUR GRACIOUS......
     
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  13. Kifflom!

    Kifflom! Well-Known Member

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    No it's much more - just read my posts. But at least our governments can be held to account if they get immigration wrong. At the moment the Government doesn't have control at all regarding EU immigration.

    But we've never been a nation of mass immigration. The Huganots came centuries ago from France but that was 50,000 over decades. Ugandan Asians in the 70's - a tiny amount. The problem started when Blair's Labour opened the floodgates in the early Noughties to "rub the Right's noses in diversity". Jack Straw has since admitted this was a monumental mistake.

    Now we've had 1 million EU immigrants since 2010 - that's unsustainable.
     
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  14. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Greece is a german crime perpetrated by the EU on behalf of german banks.

    UK is complicit and should be running EU not backing out.
     
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  15. Kifflom!

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    Oh I see, a post-Imperialist white guilt self-loather. I see them around the forums a bit. :)
     
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  16. luvgonzo

    luvgonzo Pisshead

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    Is this now a race thing?
     
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  17. Tobes

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    The Greeks did that to themselves ffs. They didn't ought to look beyond their own shores for those culpable for the massive overspend that led to their inability to repay their own debt.

    The EU should have never allowed their crack pot economy into the Euro mind, but all they've done since is bail them out of the hole they dug for themselves.

    I don't speak Arabic - why would I?
     
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  18. Kifflom!

    Kifflom! Well-Known Member

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    The assertion that Brexiteers are Little Englanders. Do keep up.
     
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  19. luvgonzo

    luvgonzo Pisshead

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    Who made that assumption? I deffo need to catch up here I'm a bit lost. If we left the EU would it all become clear?
     
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  20. Kifflom!

    Kifflom! Well-Known Member

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    The Greek political classes are to blame but the EU encouraged their entry into the Euro and do you know who lobbied the EU for that to happen? Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan - two of the biggest donors to the current In campaign, and two sets of 'experts' currently warning about Brexit.

    <laugh>
     
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