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Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by LuisDiazgamechanger, May 27, 2016.

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ON 23rd of June which way are you going to vote?.

Poll closed Jun 26, 2016.
  1. IN

    28 vote(s)
    43.8%
  2. OUT

    34 vote(s)
    53.1%
  3. DON'T KNOW

    4 vote(s)
    6.3%
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  1. Tobes

    Tobes Warden
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    I know mate. My better half is one of the countries leading ERDF funding experts.......
     
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  2. astro

    astro Well-Known Member

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    I know mate. That's what she said. :bandit:
     
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  3. Lucaaas

    Lucaaas Well-Known Member

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    It is democratic. We send 73 people who are voted in by the public to vote and negotiate on our behalf.
     
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  4. Thus Spake Zarathustra

    Thus Spake Zarathustra GC Thread Terminator

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    No, we're going to build a wall across the Channel with it, aren't we?
     
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  5. Thus Spake Zarathustra

    Thus Spake Zarathustra GC Thread Terminator

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    In a nutshell, is Farage's argument that we should destroy the economy so that no immigrant, legal or illegal, wants to come here?
     
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  6. BobbyD

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    No we send 73 people to vote on laws that the eu commision have proposed. The 73 do not actually get involved with making new laws. Just passing them. The group that propose /make the laws are put in ala the communist party.

    I guess the good thing is that if they want to create big projects they can just spend it without having to worry about the plebs. You better hope that whatever they do is for the greater good and that it doesnt affect you negatively rather than short termism which we get with national governments. Thats the one thing the communist party do well put large projects through
     
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  7. Thus Spake Zarathustra

    Thus Spake Zarathustra GC Thread Terminator

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    Please quatnify that statement.
     
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  8. Thus Spake Zarathustra

    Thus Spake Zarathustra GC Thread Terminator

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    The Brexiters need a catchy football-type chant, optimality with some sort of racist angle to it, and they've definitely got this vote sorted. 'There'll be wire fences over, the white cliffs of Dover' - some sort of variation of Trump's Mexican wall.
     
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  9. Lucaaas

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    I think you should maybe look into how the EU works a little more, mate <ok>
     
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  10. Lucaaas

    Lucaaas Well-Known Member

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    I still don't understand how the NHS is going to benefit from us leaving the EU. Yeah, we could possibly get less immigrants in the country but they are mostly healthy young adults, we'll be getting all those decrepit people back from Spain who are used to sitting in the sun all day drinking wine, who would be much more of a drain on the NHS.
     
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  11. Thus Spake Zarathustra

    Thus Spake Zarathustra GC Thread Terminator

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    Utter classic - just seen someone on the Mail reader section urging people to remember the Rotherham *****phile grooming case and to vote Brexit. As I say, please God it rains or that Wayne and Waynetta are too pissed to vote on the day.
     
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  12. DirtyFrank

    DirtyFrank Well-Known Member

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    DD....why do you torture yourself with the mail comment section...or do you read it to gauge just how many psychopaths you live near lol
     
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  13. Thus Spake Zarathustra

    Thus Spake Zarathustra GC Thread Terminator

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    Normally to feel superior, but now it is making me scared. :emoticon-0145-shake
     
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  14. afcftw

    afcftw Well-Known Member

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    Given that the amount we get back in funding is only a fraction of the amount we pay in, all current EU funding to the Uk could be paid for with billions left over to go on other projects <ok>
     
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  15. Thus Spake Zarathustra

    Thus Spake Zarathustra GC Thread Terminator

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    £350m a week on the NHS - love it. Might be a tad less though when Boris and Gove have given the promised tax cuts to the five families behind the right-wing press.
     
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  16. afcftw

    afcftw Well-Known Member

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    Not a direct reply to what I've said at all <ok>

    How we would actually spend the money though would depend on which government we have elected and how the government in power choose to spend it.
     
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  17. Thus Spake Zarathustra

    Thus Spake Zarathustra GC Thread Terminator

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    Okay then, how are we going to generate the £350m a week (or day, or hour or whatever the Mail is claiming today when the economy has collapsed?
     
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  18. DirtyFrank

    DirtyFrank Well-Known Member

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    Right someone answer me this...

    The gross is 350m a week.

    Then rebate.

    Then money back in funding.

    So we pay approx 100M in that never returns....a week


    1) what does the 150m or so in funding coming back actually go on? No one's been talking about whether it goes to the right places. It may well do but I have seen the split and what it's for?

    **** bananas etc...It doesn't go on fishing subsidies because almost all the remaining (very few) fishermen support remain. The policy has been hand written for the Spanish. Hence why being one of the few countries to obey the rules we got screwed.

    The Agricultural funding is a bit different...because of the supermarkets farmers rely on the EU funding to survive: but over here anyway; they feel trapped by it. The funding limits what they can do with their land as it's geared to French agriculture. They're on a lose lose....

    2) Do we believe 100M a week is worth the supposed free trade? If so, tell me how. Tell me in numbers how it would cost more a week with trade costs outside.
     
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  19. Thus Spake Zarathustra

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    Well there we have it - £100m a week extra on the NHS (£5bn a year?), 'maybe' some more on VAT fuel cuts, and 'perhaps we might' be able to help Port Talbot steelworks. Three more weeks to go - that net £100m has already been spent, and we might be spending some more. What percent were our net exports to the EU again? Maybe Winston Peters is going to buy it all for NZ instead though (even though his PM has said the UK should stay in the EU). If they take VAT off Special Brew, Regal Kingsize and give free dog food for Staffies; and free Jeremy Kyle for NHS patients suffering from PTSD for mobility scooter crashes, then Brexit will romp this.

    Edit: At least they're no longer trying to say they'd spend £350m a week extra on the NHS, like they tried to imply at the start of the campaign.
     
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  20. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Look it's really simple.

    Big farms get huge cheques out of Europe to pay them to have their land.

    Common agriculture policy.
     
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