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mackemwelder said:
Just like we all did mate, Paper Round, Milk Round, Tattie Picking, Flogging Coal round the doors, all that good stuff. My old man used to even make me follow the rag and bone man round the estate to pick the **** up off the horse so he could make manure for his frigging roses :( Imagine asking a kid to do that these days, Social Services would have a field day eh? but I guess that's what makes us what we are today unlike some of the kids coming through now. They don't know they're born, **** me!!! i'm even sounding like my old man now :)
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I do that now...<laugh>.. although collect the horseshit from the path near the woods where I live..
 
mackemwelder said:
Just like we all did mate, Paper Round, Milk Round, Tattie Picking, Flogging Coal round the doors, all that good stuff. My old man used to even make me follow the rag and bone man round the estate to pick the **** up off the horse so he could make manure for his frigging roses :( Imagine asking a kid to do that these days, Social Services would have a field day eh? but I guess that's what makes us what we are today unlike some of the kids coming through now. They don't know they're born, **** me!!! i'm even sounding like my old man now :)
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Yep, as soon as I turned 15 I was working in a sports shop on top of my paper round. And on school holidays I was lying about my age working at the Twydale and Grampian Turkey factory. I even bought 20 ***s and sold them individually and on Friday night, I was the only one who looked old enough to get served at the offy so I charged people booze and drank for free. If I wanted anything I had to graft for it. Continued when I left school and went full time, working 60-80 hour weeks. Until my mental health ****ed my life up I was flying on work ethic.
 
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dinlo chavy said:
Great believer in not taking things to the grave with you ,Mike and the mechanics track ;

Every generation
Blames the one before
And all of their frustrations
Come beating on your door

I know that I'm a prisoner
To all my father held so dear
I know that I'm a hostage
To all his hopes and fears
I just wish I could have told him
In the living years

Crumpled bits of paper
Filled with imperfect thought
Stilted conversations
I'm afraid that's all we've got

You say you just don't see it
He says it's perfect sense
You just can't get agreement
In this present tense
We all talk a different language
Talking in defence

Say it loud, say it clear
You can listen as well as you hear
It's too late when we die
To admit we don't see eye to eye

So we open up a quarrel
Between the present and the past
We only sacrifice the future
It's the bitterness that lasts

So don't yield to the fortunes
You sometimes see as fate
It may have a new perspective
On a different day
And if you don't give up,
And don't give in
You may just be OK

Say it loud, say it clear
You can listen as well as you hear
It's too late when we die
To admit we don't see eye to eye

I wasn't there that morning
When my father passed away
I didn't get to tell him
All the things I had to say.
I think I caught his spirit
Later that same year
I'm sure I heard his echo
In my baby's new born tears
I just wish I could have told him
In the living years

Say it loud, say it clear
You can listen as well as you hear
It's too late when we die
To admit we don't see eye to eye
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One of my favourite songs of all time. Lyrically superb and musically excellent. One of my favourites to do
 
Bri said:
Yep, as soon as I turned 15 I was working in a sports shop on top of my paper round. And on school holidays I was lying about my age working at the Twydale and Grampian Turkey factory. I even bought 20 ***s and sold them individually and on Friday night, I was the only one who looked old enough to get served at the offy so I charged people booze and drank for free. If I wanted anything I had to graft for it. Continued when I left school and went full time, working 60-80 hour weeks. Until my mental health ****ed my life up I was flying on work ethic.
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Aye, I did all of that mate, that's just the way it was back then, we never got hand outs unless my dad won on the horses and then i'd get a bag of kets, but never money. Not that he was a gambler like, he would only put a few bob on, more for entertainment value than gambling.

^0-80 hours? luxury mate, I've worked a minimum of 84 each week since the early 90's, most of the time, it has been even more. When I was down the docks with Amec we used to do 7 x 15 hour shifts and I rarely saw my kids as they were tucked up in bed by the time i got home. Hard graft mate, but hard graft never killed anyone and it's what we do to provide for our families.
 
mackemwelder said:
Aye, I did all of that mate, that's just the way it was back then, we never got hand outs unless my dad won on the horses and then i'd get a bag of kets, but never money. Not that he was a gambler like, he would only put a few bob on, more for entertainment value than gambling.

^0-80 hours? luxury mate, I've worked a minimum of 84 each week since the early 90's, most of the time, it has been even more. When I was down the docks with Amec we used to do 7 x 15 hour shifts and I rarely saw my kids as they were tucked up in bed by the time i got home. Hard graft mate, but hard graft never killed anyone and it's what we do to provide for our families.
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I would have worked more, completely manic. You could only work the hours available in my time mate. Weren't many jobs you could take as many hours as you wanted. Getting jobs full stop was a problem for many. Often I was moonlighting on the quiet but had to pack that in with care work as I had twilight and nights.
 
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mackemwelder said:
Just like we all did mate, Paper Round, Milk Round, Tattie Picking, Flogging Coal round the doors, all that good stuff. My old man used to even make me follow the rag and bone man round the estate to pick the **** up off the horse so he could make manure for his frigging roses :( Imagine asking a kid to do that these days, Social Services would have a field day eh? but I guess that's what makes us what we are today unlike some of the kids coming through now. They don't know they're born, **** me!!! i'm even sounding like my old man now :)
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What happened to Tattie picking week? Every October half term the fields were full of kids earning a bit of pocket money for working hard when I was that age. Nowadays it doesn't happen - I told my son to go get a paper round - they're not allowed to employ kids to do that any more apparently!

This is one of the reasons kids have no work ethic any more. They don't earn their respect and can't earn their own money any more until they're "old enough"
 
marcusblackcat said:
What happened to Tattie picking week? Every October half term the fields were full of kids earning a bit of pocket money for working hard when I was that age. Nowadays it doesn't happen - I told my son to go get a paper round - they're not allowed to employ kids to do that any more apparently!

This is one of the reasons kids have no work ethic any more. They don't earn their respect and can't earn their own money any more until they're "old enough"
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Technology mate. In our day the tractor would plough up and down the tattie rows and we'd be waiting with empty sacks to fill up, now they have machines that do the lot. I remember it being back braking work back then so not sure it would be allowed now, more like slave labour when you think about it, but as you say, it instilled a work ethic into us that just doesn't exist in todays kids.
 
mackemwelder said:
Technology mate. In our day the tractor would plough up and down the tattie rows and we'd be waiting with empty sacks to fill up, now they have machines that do the lot. I remember it being back braking work back then so not sure it would be allowed now, more like slave labour when you think about it, but as you say, it instilled a work ethic into us that just doesn't exist in todays kids.
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Aye too true - much like @Bri I had a milk round and 3 paper rounds (2 morning one afternoon!) - kitted out the bike with a trailer my dad and I made (Dad's a mechanic so welded it all together) and earned my own money - didn't need pocket money and, even as a kid at school, gave my Mam a tenner a month (which she put in a savings account and gave me back when I turned 18). Think that's why I'm a morning person now - don;t ever sleep much past the sun rising so am normally out with the dogs at 5am!!
 
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marcusblackcat said:
What happened to Tattie picking week? Every October half term the fields were full of kids earning a bit of pocket money for working hard when I was that age. Nowadays it doesn't happen - I told my son to go get a paper round - they're not allowed to employ kids to do that any more apparently!

This is one of the reasons kids have no work ethic any more. They don't earn their respect and can't earn their own money any more until they're "old enough"
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Kids can do paper rounds from the age of 14..All my three kids have either had or got paper rounds.. My daughter who is 15 still has a paper round and also works as a waitress in a bar/restaurant on Sundays.
 
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MrRAWhite said:
You can't beat horse muck for your plants man!!
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True mate. When I got my first house I got a tipper load of the stuff delivered on my front drive and had to shovel it all round to the back garden, I wasn't Mr Popular in our street that's for sure :) and talk about **** shoveling :) I did plenty of that. :)

But I had the best lawn in the street :)
 
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marcusblackcat said:
Aye too true - much like @Bri I had a milk round and 3 paper rounds (2 morning one afternoon!) - kitted out the bike with a trailer my dad and I made (Dad's a mechanic so welded it all together) and earned my own money - didn't need pocket money and, even as a kid at school, gave my Mam a tenner a month (which she put in a savings account and gave me back when I turned 18). Think that's why I'm a morning person now - don;t ever sleep much past the sun rising so am normally out with the dogs at 5am!!
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Me too mate, as soon as the sun comes up i'm in the wide awake club, but the dog just looks at me with that " you must be stupid if you think i'm going out at this time of day" look :)
 
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MrRAWhite said:
My dad would have also struggled with the computer age. If he had still been alive he would have been 93 now.. My mam is coming up 87 and she is right into computers and social media and is often contributing on facebook..
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My dad was a bit of an amateur inventor and was always in his shed making things out of stuff he nicked from the pit.

He spent ages, with some bits from the mine's telephone exchange, that he fashioned into an early form of satellite navigation.

He rigged it up in his car and set off to see his brother in Hull ....... that was the last anyone ever saw of him <laugh>
 
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mackemwelder said:
Me too mate, as soon as the sun comes up i'm in the wide awake club, but the dog just looks at me with that " you must be stupid if you think i'm going out at this time of day" look :)
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My Spaniel would happily walk or run for 23 hours a day and eat for the other hour! I took her on a bike ride - did almost 22 miles around chester le street and stanley. She got home - had a drink and looked at me as if to say "Where we going now"! Impossible to wear her out but she's great to run with and so well behaved on the lead unlike my other three little ****s! (dogs that is!)
 
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marcusblackcat said:
My Spaniel would happily walk or run for 23 hours a day and eat for the other hour! I took her on a bike ride - did almost 22 miles around chester le street and stanley. She got home - had a drink and looked at me as if to say "Where we going now"! Impossible to wear her out but she's great to run with and so well behaved on the lead unlike my other three little ****s! (dogs that is!)
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Mines a staffie mate and he's 10 now so as long as he gets his two walks a day he's happy, but he just doesn't do mornings. My missus has him spoilt rotten and if he gets the chance to sleep he takes it. Normally his first walk is midday then another around 6:00 and that seems to do him.
 
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