Off Topic WW3 How Close?

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None of these arguments bear scrutiny unfortunately, if it were that simple no European country would have a problem.

Using the Falklands is a complete non-starter as are the other ridiculous ideas …

… it simply couldn’t be done.



The ‘experts’ probably go along with Farage’s scheme to get the Royal Navy to escort migrants back to France or Belgium.
Yeah let's push them into "international waters" as well. The fact that there are no international waters between France and the UK is just a "woke" argument dreamt up by Lefty Lawyers.
 
The Falkland Islands have their own government who would need to agree to any plan to house migrants sent there from the UK. Good luck with that!

There was a petition to the UK parliament in 2024 to move processing of migrants to the Falklands, it got 31 votes...
 
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I would bet that most islanders would be able to make an off grid cabin in the wild part of the island, just build a few together and you would have a camp. Easy this ain't it.
 
I would bet that most islanders would be able to make an off grid cabin in the wild part of the island, just build a few together and you would have a camp. Easy this ain't it.
Why would they want to ? Would you like them moving in next to you ?
 
This oil supply disruption could go on for a while. Firing on merchant shipping is low even for Iran
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Depends in the context it's being used. I was very clear earlier that not everyone who voted Brexit is racist. If you drew a Venn Diagram though of racists and brexiteers the former would sit entirely within latter.
Load of rubbish. Plenty of left wing people that voted to remain are racist. Mainly against Jewish folk.
 
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I'm not sure 'cos I don't know many details, but as long as there's a proper plan for the decent Persian people (who seem to have suffered government tyranny for many decades) after this, I think that he's doing the right thing . . . . as mentioned previously, this is the first time that I've ever agreed with him
 
Nothing Trump does has my support.
Everything he does is simply to benefit Trump in some way or another. This war is all at Israels behest and Trump sees it as a means of securing additional oil reserves or gaining control of pricing (take Venezuela as an example).
Trump was all about forcing a ceasefire in Ukraine as long as the US got the mineral rights and their companies controlled the infrastructure to obtain them.
Greenland was less about security and more about mineral rights and controlling the shipping channels, as was his plans for Panama.

All of the above has the added benefit of pushing the Epstein files off the front pages
 
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I'm not sure 'cos I don't know many details, but as long as there's a proper plan for the decent Persian people (who seem to have suffered government tyranny for many decades) after this, I think that he's doing the right thing . . . . as mentioned previously, this is the first time that I've ever agreed with him
That's the problem for me, I just don't see a plan that will help the decent Persian people. I hope I'm wrong and there's someone somewhere who knows what they want to achieve and how to achieve it. At the minute though, the US is backing away from talk of regime change.
 
How long before we see boots on the ground, in this probably, more than likely unwinnable war, in a very, very difficult terrain
 
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How long before we see boots on the ground, in this probably, more than likely unwinnable war, in a very, very difficult terrain
I think that's too difficult politically for Trump. For me the likeliest outcome is some kind of deal that allows the regime to remain in place but provides securities in the region.
 
I think the Brexit we got is not the Brexit people who voted leave thought they were getting.
The worst person to negotiate it was boris.
Had Blair, Brown and Cameron been a lot stronger with the EU no way would the leave vote won.
The majority didn't really know what they are voting for. I love my mother in law dearly, she is a fantastic lady. However her views on voting to leave would be hilarious if the outcome wasn't so bad.
The fact conversations she repeats to having with her friends she meets at the shops, just shows how far from the reality some of these peoples views are.
She's still adamant that she would vote leave again. She doesn't understand you can just stop the boars and there are laws that stop you from just sinking them

My Mam voted leave and once went into a big rant about farming and how we import too much food and we should support Brexit and support our British farmers. At the time it was December and she was eating a pavlova she'd made and decorated with strawberries, raspberries and blueberries, which were presumably farmed abroad as we can't grow them here in the winter!
 
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This oil supply disruption could go on for a while. Firing on merchant shipping is low even for Iran

I don't understand the prices going up so soon, other than greedy profiteering.

I filled my car with diesel on Monday as it was nearly empty and paid £1.44 a litre. A couple of days later and diesel is around £1.55-£1.60+ a litre. That's probably diesel that was refined and distributed before the events this week, so why has the price on the pump shot up?
 
Just as an update ...

... how many people are currently backing Trump in this war?
Put it this way. Id never thought id see the day when theres a war between USA and Iran and find myself hoping Iran gives USA (Trump) a bloody nose. I would love to see regime change but would get a guilty pleasure if things go pear shaped for Trump and his cronies. As long as we stay out of it of course.
 
I don't understand the prices going up so soon, other than greedy profiteering.

I filled my car with diesel on Monday as it was nearly empty and paid £1.44 a litre. A couple of days later and diesel is around £1.55-£1.60+ a litre. That's probably diesel that was refined and distributed before the events this week, so why has the price on the pump shot up?
This happens every time, when prices drop their spokesmen always says they buy their fuel up to two years before at a higher cost so can’t reduce prices yet.
Nobody in government has the guts to call them out.