Off Topic WW3 How Close?
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Watch the full interview and the counter arguments. Piers is a nob but still manages flummox the so called intellectual. Calls out his hypocrisy and some of the aggressions by Russia/USSR post WW2.
If you think Russia is justified in invading Ukraine, murdering women and kids over a potential NATO membership, there’s no point even trying to talk to you.
Russia has blamed the US and vowed "consequences" for a Ukrainian missile strike on Sevastopol in occupied Crimea on Sunday, which officials say killed four people - including two children.
Around 150 more were injured in the attack as missile debris fell on a beach nearby.
Russia's defence ministry said the missiles used by Ukraine were US-supplied ATACMS missiles, and claimed they were programmed by US specialists.
Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov called the strike "barbaric" and accused the US of "killing Russian children".
He pointed towards comments by President Vladimir Putin, who recently vowed to target countries supplying weapons to Ukraine.
Moscow said Sunday's deaths and injuries were caused by falling debris, after its air defences in Crimea intercepted five missiles loaded with cluster warheads launched by Ukrainian forces.
Footage carried on Russian state TV showed chaos on the beach in the Uchkuyevka area, as people ran from the falling debris and some injured people were carried away on sun loungers.
Russia's defence ministry claimed on Sunday that all ATACMS missiles are programmed by US specialists and guided by American satellites.
Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov reiterated the claim during a meeting in Minsk on Monday, saying that the system "cannot be used without the direct participation of the American military, including satellite capabilities".
The US has been supplying ATACMS missiles to Ukraine for over a year. The system allows Ukrainian forces to strike targets up to 300km (186 miles) away, according to manufacturer Lockheed Martin.
Moscow illegally annexed Crimea in 2014 and just a handful of countries recognise the peninsula as Russian territory. It therefore does not fall under the US demands that Ukraine refrain from using Washington-supplied weapons to strike Russian territory.
A spokesperson for the White House National Security Council told the BBC: “Ukraine makes its own targeting decisions and conducts its own military operations.”
But Mr Peskov told reporters in Moscow on Monday that the "involvement of the United States, the direct involvement, as a result of which Russian civilians are killed, cannot be without consequences".
"Time will tell what these will be," he added.
The Russian foreign ministry summoned the US Ambassador Lynne Tracy on Monday, with Mr Lavrov claiming that US involvement in the attack was "not in doubt".
Moscow has repeatedly threatened to target countries supplying weapons to Ukraine, claiming that they are legitimate military targets.
"We see very well who is behind this," Mr Peskov told reporters on Monday.
"[Mr Putin] just last week talked about who is aiming these absolutely technologically complex missiles at targets, who is providing these launches. These are not Ukrainians."
Earlier this month, Mr Putin renewed the threat during a meeting with international news agencies.
"If someone thinks it is possible to supply such weapons to a war zone to attack our territory and create problems for us, why don't we have the right to supply weapons of the same class to regions of the world where there will be strikes on sensitive facilities of those (Western) countries?" he said.
"That is, the response can be asymmetric. We will think about it," he added.
Ukrainian officials have defended the strike in the wake of the attack, calling Crimea a legitimate target.
Mykhailo Podolyak - a top aide to President Volodymyr Zelensky - said the peninsula was in effect "a large military camp" which he said held "hundreds of direct military targets, which the Russians are cynically trying to hide and cover up with their own civilians".
The UN's human rights monitoring mission in Ukraine says at least 10,000 civilians have been killed since Russia invaded in February 2022. The real figure, officials say, is likely to be far higher.
Around 150 more were injured in the attack as missile debris fell on a beach nearby.
Russia's defence ministry said the missiles used by Ukraine were US-supplied ATACMS missiles, and claimed they were programmed by US specialists.
Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov called the strike "barbaric" and accused the US of "killing Russian children".
He pointed towards comments by President Vladimir Putin, who recently vowed to target countries supplying weapons to Ukraine.
Moscow said Sunday's deaths and injuries were caused by falling debris, after its air defences in Crimea intercepted five missiles loaded with cluster warheads launched by Ukrainian forces.
Footage carried on Russian state TV showed chaos on the beach in the Uchkuyevka area, as people ran from the falling debris and some injured people were carried away on sun loungers.
Russia's defence ministry claimed on Sunday that all ATACMS missiles are programmed by US specialists and guided by American satellites.
Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov reiterated the claim during a meeting in Minsk on Monday, saying that the system "cannot be used without the direct participation of the American military, including satellite capabilities".
The US has been supplying ATACMS missiles to Ukraine for over a year. The system allows Ukrainian forces to strike targets up to 300km (186 miles) away, according to manufacturer Lockheed Martin.
Moscow illegally annexed Crimea in 2014 and just a handful of countries recognise the peninsula as Russian territory. It therefore does not fall under the US demands that Ukraine refrain from using Washington-supplied weapons to strike Russian territory.
A spokesperson for the White House National Security Council told the BBC: “Ukraine makes its own targeting decisions and conducts its own military operations.”
But Mr Peskov told reporters in Moscow on Monday that the "involvement of the United States, the direct involvement, as a result of which Russian civilians are killed, cannot be without consequences".
"Time will tell what these will be," he added.
The Russian foreign ministry summoned the US Ambassador Lynne Tracy on Monday, with Mr Lavrov claiming that US involvement in the attack was "not in doubt".
Moscow has repeatedly threatened to target countries supplying weapons to Ukraine, claiming that they are legitimate military targets.
"We see very well who is behind this," Mr Peskov told reporters on Monday.
"[Mr Putin] just last week talked about who is aiming these absolutely technologically complex missiles at targets, who is providing these launches. These are not Ukrainians."
Earlier this month, Mr Putin renewed the threat during a meeting with international news agencies.
"If someone thinks it is possible to supply such weapons to a war zone to attack our territory and create problems for us, why don't we have the right to supply weapons of the same class to regions of the world where there will be strikes on sensitive facilities of those (Western) countries?" he said.
"That is, the response can be asymmetric. We will think about it," he added.
Ukrainian officials have defended the strike in the wake of the attack, calling Crimea a legitimate target.
Mykhailo Podolyak - a top aide to President Volodymyr Zelensky - said the peninsula was in effect "a large military camp" which he said held "hundreds of direct military targets, which the Russians are cynically trying to hide and cover up with their own civilians".
The UN's human rights monitoring mission in Ukraine says at least 10,000 civilians have been killed since Russia invaded in February 2022. The real figure, officials say, is likely to be far higher.
It's a sh!tshow, the US cannot beat Russia without opening up the pacific and middle east to more chaos, DIPLOMACY NOW.
Things definitely ramping up now. F16s arrived in Ukraine, US aircraft carriers moving into position over there and now this...
https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1820146445715935502?t=yAHyiU__6BSSi6aBKP-C0g&s=19
Hell on in Venezuela and riots in the UK.
We are in very disturbing times.
https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1820146445715935502?t=yAHyiU__6BSSi6aBKP-C0g&s=19
Hell on in Venezuela and riots in the UK.
We are in very disturbing times.
No wonder some people want to go and live on the moon ...
Not if you avoid the internet and all the news channels.
Sadly I have to say I'm safe, and ignorant, in my little bubble ...
... notwithstanding a few farts to be totally honest.
Israel’s response will be bigger and better. Iran will **** their pants and that will be the end of it.
Yes, it will be better ...
... everything's a computer game if you're not actually involved or affected.
Guess it depends if America get involved... If they do, the s hit hits the fan. Just hoping these missiles sent by Iran is the end.. Apparently non have caused that much damage. If they send more, could be a problem
That'll teach Iran not to sell their best missiles to Putin!
They didn't sell the best ones mate. These actually reached Israel, they've been ripping Putin off the whole time
