Off Topic WW3 How Close?

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Oliver's Army said:
It looks to my non expert, non military expertise that Russia are having their arse served to them on a plate.

The offer of holding talks would suggest to me that they are ****ting themselves at what's gone on. Wonder if someone on the inside pops Vlad off.
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There have been claims that people inside Kremlin are against him “ we voted to help Donbas, we did not vote to bomb Kiev or have war”
Russian public seem to disagree with him also
 
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gelders pie said:
There have been claims that people inside Kremlin are against him “ we voted to help Donbas, we did not vote to bomb Kiev or have war”
Russian public seem to disagree with him also
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There were about 2k protesting in Moscow against what he was doing and I believe they all got arrested for treason. But I wonder what would happen if that turned to 10s of thousands on the Moscow streets? Would their own Police down tools and join the protests against him for example? The 2 chiefs of staff in the video where he puts the nukes on standby look less than convinced at what he was telling them to do.
Edit, these 2:
https://news.sky.com/video/ukraine-invasion-putin-puts-nuclear-deterrent-on-combat-standby-12553323
Another edit: think it was St. Petersburg rather than Moscow where they were protesting.
 
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Zidane said:
I'd like to think that the generals would arrest him before he could do anything really stupid
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Thinking exactly the same, I’d be amazed if something/someone didn’t question it. Hoying up nuclear missiles mean everyone dies, including Vlad.
 
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Zidane said:
I'd like to think that the generals would arrest him before he could do anything really stupid
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Unfortunately Russia isn't exactly a nation ruled by democracy, so that one General might have the fear of being the only one, but you'd still hope for a 'Russian Valkyrie' of some sort.

Edit: obviously an Operation Valkyrie that works...
 
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The Exile II said:
****ing yikes. That is a really big deal. Not very far away from actually putting troops in.

The whole world seems to have realised that Vlad's got nowt on.
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Will he use this against the EU and now say '**** it, you lot are fully involved now; its a full on war with Europe" and the big red button is pressed?

Alternatively, are the Allies smelling blood without firing a bullet?
 
Oliver's Army said:
There were about 2k protesting in Moscow against what he was doing and I believe they all got arrested for treason. But I wonder what would happen if that turned to 10s of thousands on the Moscow streets? Would their own Police down tools and join the protests against him for example? The 2 chiefs of staff in the video where he puts the nukes on standby look less than convinced at what he was telling them to do.
Edit, these 2:
https://news.sky.com/video/ukraine-invasion-putin-puts-nuclear-deterrent-on-combat-standby-12553323
Another edit: think it was St. Petersburg rather than Moscow where they were protesting.
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It pisses me off when you see a million walking the streets due to the "climate crisis" yet the response to possiblity of the actual end to our way of life is met by a few k wandering about in Moscow holding hands. There's over 140 million Russians in Russia, Putin cannot jail or kill them all. Maybe it's about time the people stood up to this regime and took them out. The Americans have done this on a number of occasions and all it takes is a "lone wolf" who's willing to give up his life for the greater good.

Maybe it needs to be sold to them as being important to combat climate change - a nuclear winter is coming that would hopefully motivate the people.
 
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Oliver's Army said:
Wow, 10 days and they are ****ed. There is no way that Zelensky is leaving (tweet 6) he will be on the front line fighting until the end.
It would be unbelievable if the Ukraine slap these ****ers all over on their own (I know the West has helped with equipment and things) but if they send them packing despite being outnumbered so heavily it would be incredible.

And if they do, then Putin should be hunted down and hauled to the Hague and the sanctions should stay in place.
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Echoes of Finland. Russians got a bloody nose then, as well. I thought the Russian armed forces had turned a corner after the kicking they gave the Germans. Can it be that they only fight well when they have been invaded? Or is it lack of generalship? The fact that they don’t know where they are or where they are going shows the lack of a plan. Seems as if Putin has done a “Hitler” and acted without his generals. But also it could be that the Russian squaddies don’t want to be there.
 
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Chip said:
It pisses me off when you see a million walking the streets due to the "climate crisis" yet the response to possiblity of the actual end to our way of life is met by a few k wandering about in Moscow holding hands. There's over 140 million Russians in Russia, Putin cannot jail or kill them all. Maybe it's about time the people stood up to this regime and took them out. The Americans have done this on a number of occasions and all it takes is a "lone wolf" who's willing to give up his life for the greater good.

Maybe it needs to be sold to them as being important to combat climate change - a nuclear winter is coming that would hopefully motivate the people.
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Access to Twitter and other media has been restricted, state media running stories about liberation of Ukraine, how the liberation efforts are going well, hardly any russian losses.... Kremlin control of its masses is a well run propaganda machine. Most of Russia probably doesn't have a clue about what's actually happening
 
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gelders pie said:
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This nuclear simulation is canny scary like. If it ever happens, I'm thinking I hope first one gets me , as don't fancy seeing it progress, and there'll be nothing to bother surviving for. Unless you can quickly get to S.America or NZ
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Looking at the potential events, seems to me living n the Southern Hemisphere is the place to be, thank god when I'm done in the Middle East, me and Mrs F will be moving to South Africa
 
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