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Off Topic WW3 How Close?

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  1. Saf

    Saf Not606 Godfather+NOT606 Poster of the year 2023

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    Shot herself in the foot I'm afraid. Backpacking on a tourist visa in US, Had been staying free with a host family in exchange for some chores & house work, then went to cross into Canada to do the same there. Canadian Border Staff questioned her about where she was staying then refused to admit her because she broke visa restrictions, sent her back to the US, where she got her US visa cancelled. No way for her to get home to the UK direct from the US/Canada border so she got handed over to Immigration enforcement for repatriation.

    Considering she arranged the trip through Workaway she could hardly claim she didn't realise this meant she was going to be working for some reward.
     
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    Trump hits a new low by stopping F16 donor nations supplying spare parts & switching off installed onboard jamming pods.

    Now I hear the US will no longer send any forces to Europe for future NATO training operations.
     
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    He’s destroying Ukraines reputation so he can do this stuff as well, it’s despicable
     
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    Our politicians , governments , and system may be poor , but at least our poor decisions are agreed my multiple people after discussion.
    USA seems to be whatever Trump thinks up next , implemented on the spot, and he calls others dictators ?
     
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    Ukraine hit Moscow with drones. Number of dead not yet available
     
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  8. gelders pie

    gelders pie Well-Known Member

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    So there will be a massive retaliation that Ukraine is less able to defend. Trump will be straight in '' you need to capitulate and surrender''
     
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    Assume their play is to use the drone attack to sell the proposed air and sea truce. Makes it seem like they’ve got something to give up.
     
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    Blond Bombshell Well-Known Member

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    Agree, but putin doesn't work like that... think the Ukraine has shot themselves in the foot..
     
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    Maybe not. However the biggest strategic error of the last decade has been the west talking ourselves out of action in fear of what Putin may do. It’s just put off the point where pushback happens - and made it more expensive when it does come.
     
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    And putting our faith in what the US would do for us all...
     
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    Quite extraordinary that he’s still in place and nobody has ever tried to remove him to form a closer relationship with the west tbh. Either the Russians really like him or he’s the king of “fake news” :emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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    There are people from all over the world living in the USA, Trump needs to be careful about pissing people off. Some may take offence.
     
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    That's a big problem with what's happening. My admittedly limited knowledge of US law is that it is Congress that has the power to impose tariffs, it can't be done by presidential executive order. Obviously the Republicans in Congress are **** scared of Trump so won't kick up a fuss, but where are the Democrats?
     
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    I think history tells us they did but we were too busy celebrating victory and the end of the Cold War to answer, bread queues resulted while we partied, and the road to were we are today began.
     
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    Always interesting to look back on pivotal moments in history and think WTF were folk thinking. I have lived through a few I reckon where my kids are already say WTF and who knows what my grandkids might say when in their history lessons.
     
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    We made a huge cock up well before the invasion in saying that we wouldn't send our troops in.

    Just what the fcuk message HMG thought that sent I don't know, but to me it pulled the rug out from under Ukraine.
     
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    Canadians don't like Donald the Gump.

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    I have to agree, difficult though it would've been to say that ... we either stand alongside Ukraine or we don't.

    Europe would've immediately been put under pressure to follow suit.

    Putin is a sick egotistical bully and shouldn't be accommodated. Sadly, as this war was starting we had to tolerate Boris Johnson smirking about how Putin threatened him, personally, with a missile strike. Weapons grade idiot.

    "Or something like that"
    ... as if something like that wouldn't stick in your mind <doh>

    Try to work out which is the waffling, old bluffer and which is Boris ....



     
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