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Watch this you clueless muppet

Peaceful my arse.

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This thread has got some ****e in it. I see people calling multiculturism and blaming it all on that.

Lack of mixing races and cultures results in the kind of **** happening. I'm not suprised to see such racist and ignorant views on here to be honest, as Hull isn't exactly brimming with an ethnic population.

I'm lucky enough to live in Leicester where it works very well and can be proud to say I'm a part of it. Think a lot of people on here need to take a long hard look at themselves, there's some right bellends who wouldn't look out of place in the EDL.

And no Islam isn't the problem, Islam is a peaceful religion, that preaches love and peace. The problem is dickheads who find ways to misinterpret small passages of the Quran to make it violent. These extremists probably ignore at least 98% of the entire book and focus on the odd line dotted here and there throughout the book, then throw them all together and take them completely out of context.

And anyone who thinks we aren't just as bad, is just ****ing blind, ignorant or thick, or all 3 combined. Maybe some people on here should look into what actually goes on in Iraq and Afghan...

There are barely any Muslims in Leicester, that's probably why there very few issues with integration.

I lived in Huddersfield and also had a home in Wembley for eight years, both would benefit from demolition.

The fact is, that there is only one group that kills innocent people in the name of religion and it ain't the ****ing Buddhists.
 
Not sure how much they've shown in the uk but in Oz they showed one of guys after the attack video'd on someone's phone - I thought he had red gloves on until I realised it was blood. Had a meat cleaver and knife in the other hand soaked in blood. I could not believe what I was watching
 
Not sure how much they've shown in the uk but in Oz they showed one of guys after the attack video'd on someone's phone - I thought he had red gloves on until I realised it was blood. Had a meat cleaver and knife in the other hand soaked in blood. I could not believe what I was watching

Yeahs its on our news as well. Kicking off in Woolwich now apparently..
 
This thread has got some ****e in it. I see people calling multiculturism and blaming it all on that.

Lack of mixing races and cultures results in the kind of **** happening. I'm not suprised to see such racist and ignorant views on here to be honest, as Hull isn't exactly brimming with an ethnic population.

I'm lucky enough to live in Leicester where it works very well and can be proud to say I'm a part of it. Think a lot of people on here need to take a long hard look at themselves, there's some right bellends who wouldn't look out of place in the EDL.

And no Islam isn't the problem, Islam is a peaceful religion, that preaches love and peace. The problem is dickheads who find ways to misinterpret small passages of the Quran to make it violent. These extremists probably ignore at least 98% of the entire book and focus on the odd line dotted here and there throughout the book, then throw them all together and take them completely out of context.

And anyone who thinks we aren't just as bad, is just ****ing blind, ignorant or thick, or all 3 combined. Maybe some people on here should look into what actually goes on in Iraq and Afghan...

How does it work in Leicester? White in one part and Asians in another!!! i would say then say multiculturalism is not working, Now i live in Littleborough which comes under Rochdale And we have huge asian area's were whites and not allowed at certain times of night and vesa versa! And white people move out of Asian area's so i dont see multiculturalism working in this area. We recently had the groming case were 50 asian men were involved and only ten were prosecuted! And due to this a Police officer resigned!

I have wasted my time and read the Qur'an (not just the bad bits) and it more the 2% full of hatred!! and not a bad read at parts.

And i dont see a good Islam state with a good democracy!

Its stupid to put all Muslims in one basket and say they are all fooked up. As said before they are issue's with these communities that need addressing rather then hiding from the public eye, Or branded a racist for challenging there ideas!
 
The fact is, that there is only one group that kills innocent people in the name of religion and it ain't the ****ing Buddhists.

Anders Breivik is a recent high-profile example which goes against your 'fact'. Plenty more in plenty of countries.

That being said, I really don't think the religion, race etc... of people who commit crimes should be targeted, it should be the crimes themselves.
 
Terrible news today. Despite all the blaming and what we should and shouldn't do, thoughts are with this bloke's family and friends after this cowardly attack.
 
Watch this you clueless muppet

Peaceful my arse.



Is it just me that thinks, even if there was a large muslim population in Hull, the locals simply wouldnt let stuff like this happen? It was like that video clip from today when the murderer is talking on camera about what he's just done. Im sure that wouldnt happen if he did that in a busy road in Hull. About 10 people would jump him and kick the living **** out of him.

I'm not saying this as a 'look at us, we're so hard' thing, I kind of mean we police ourselves a little more I think.
 
Anders Breivik is a recent high-profile example which goes against your 'fact'. Plenty more in plenty of countries.

That being said, I really don't think the religion, race etc... of people who commit crimes should be targeted, it should be the crimes themselves.

So people killing our people while shouting Muslim **** should not be treated as Muslims?
 
Is it just me that thinks, even if there was a large muslim population in Hull, the locals simply wouldnt let stuff like this happen? It was like that video clip from today when the murderer is talking on camera about what he's just done. Im sure that wouldnt happen if he did that in a busy road in Hull. About 10 people would jump him and kick the living **** out of him.

I'm not saying this as a 'look at us, we're so hard' thing, I kind of mean we police ourselves a little more I think.

Exactly, he would just been as good as dead before police got there.
 
How does it work in Leicester? White in one part and Asians in another!!! i would say then say multiculturalism is not working, Now i live in Littleborough which comes under Rochdale And we have huge asian area's were whites and not allowed at certain times of night and vesa versa! And white people move out of Asian area's so i dont see multiculturalism working in this area. We recently had the groming case were 50 asian men were involved and only ten were prosecuted! And due to this a Police officer resigned!

I have wasted my time and read the Qur'an (not just the bad bits) and it more the 2% full of hatred!! and not a bad read at parts.

Should have said i have read the bible too and that was a waste of time but some good stories

And i dont see a good Islam state with a good democracy!

Its stupid to put all Muslims in one basket and say they are all fooked up. As said before they are issue's with these communities that need addressing rather then hiding from the public eye, Or branded a racist for challenging there ideas!

I,ll leave the other spelling and grammar errors, Sorry
 
Watch this you clueless muppet

Peaceful my arse.



Is it just me that thinks, even if there was a large muslim population in Hull, the locals simply wouldnt let stuff like this happen? It was like that video clip from today when the murderer is talking on camera about what he's just done. Im sure that wouldnt happen if he did that in a busy road in Hull. About 10 people would jump him and kick the living **** out of him.

I'm not saying this as a 'look at us, we're so hard' thing, I kind of mean we police ourselves a little more I think.

I'm not sure that's right.
 
So people killing our people while shouting Muslim **** should not be treated as Muslims?

Killing people should be treated as killing people. Motives should be taken into account and understood.

Though, the government should not, and cannot, change peoples private beliefs. The government can ban things which cause problems for society, but not specific religious beliefs. E.g. ban face covering, not just ban burqas / ban faith schools, not just ban islamic schools / ban murder, not just 'muslim murder'.
 
If it was a soldier in full uniform being attacked by a couple of blokes in full Muslim dress then I dare say he'd have been assisted. Probably more so in Hull than London.

From what I can gather and from what I've seen the victim was wearing a T shirt and the perpetrators were dressed in normal clobber.

The **** with blood all over his hands had a Stone Island hat on FFS.

I think most people would have just seen two blokes attacking another bloke and just didn't want to get involved.

I'm not sure you can blame them or even the first Police on the scene for not steaming in judging by the levels of violence involved.
 
There is a clear ‘us and them’ element in all of this; the difference for me is not their religion, ethnicity or colour, but their attitude to the rights of others and their very clearly stated beliefs that they can take our life from us with impunity. I don’t care whether they are white or black, Muslim, Christian or agnostic, male or female, if they take a life intentionally and the evidence is irrefutable then they should hang. I don’t care that they have human rights, or that the act of capital punishment might be considered uncivilised, they should hang; nothing less is acceptable to me. I agree, we have to start fighting back and jail is not the answer, it is a part of the problem. The money used in keeping all of the countries killers alive in jail can and should be used better.

I also agree that not all Muslims (whose cause this evil is purported to support) are bad or supportive; but the vast majority are silent and they use their religious protocols to mask and refuse access to active trouble-causers and worse. We must all face our responsibilities and that includes supporting the rule of law and order. I think many people will be watching for the reaction of many difference groups within society – open support of this crime should be prosecuted without fail.
Start building the scaffolds.
 
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