Women's World Cup

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Asterix said:
I do not envisage many people here in the UK rushing to the pub tomorrow to watch the final. Kick off is at 11am. Pubs open at 12. It is being broadcast on both the BBC and ITV. The viewing figures therefore should be rather accurate.
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I was more thinking here in Aus where there have been thousands at live sites and packed pubs. I also think there'd be a few places in England putting the game on in public spaces, but my point was more to counter the "But what about people not watching the game in the same house or what about this or that" that was popping up.
 
originallambrettaman said:
I've just seen that the Women's football league has refused to allow this weekends games to be postponed, so the teams who are due to play on Sunday (which includes Hull City Ladies), will forfeit the game if the players watch the World Cup final instead. A monumentally stupid decision.
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Wonder if a factor in that decision was that their games all start at or later than 2pm. Clubs might be making their own arrangements to see the final and still turn up to play.
 
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Gone For A Walk said:
This surely has to be a wind up?
If not then the world's gone made. It would be beyond ridiculous.
Not knocking for one second what she's done in the Women's game. Very impressive. But come on.
If Spain happen to win on Sunday, does anyone really think that Spain would then consider their manager for the men's national team? No, not for one second.
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Well he'll not get the sack for losing because his Dad is the Head of the Women's federation in Spain and appointed him.
 
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DMD said:
I haven't got a clue how they do it, but it can only ever be a best guess, and some of the figures I've seen for viewing figures for a number of programmes have seemed questionable to say the least.

Ultimately, they've reached the pinnacle of their chosen sport, and can't be asked to do more than that, so fair play to them.

I do think the arguments for them as individuals receiving greater financial reward because of some loose comparison to the (so called) male equivalents is weak for a host of reasons, I doubt they'd score as many against male keepers alone being one, but people enjoy it, and I'd be happy to see greater investment in grass roots football, and sport in general and that should be inclusive to all.

There are massive benefits to society in doing that, that far outweigh the costs in my opinion.
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The Matidas lost 7-0 in a warm up match. To a club team of U15 lads. Those who had reached the pinnacle, beaten by those whose journey is nowhere complete, if only just beginning. I think therein lies the answer to the question of financial equity. Pay seven quid and you can watch Arsenal Ldies. Would you pay 7 quid to watch an U15 lads game? No. How much would you pay to watch them at the pinnacle of their sport?
It is an apple and pears comparison, or, at the same time being two totally different sports governed by the same rules.
The true, the only acid test, the crucible for tomorrows game is....... The Match Thread. here.
 
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Asterix said:
I do not envisage many people here in the UK rushing to the pub tomorrow to watch the final. Kick off is at 11am. Pubs open at 12. It is being broadcast on both the BBC and ITV. The viewing figures therefore should be rather accurate.
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Pubs can open whenever they choose, it's when they can start serving alcohol that's the issue. I think a lot of people will go to pubs. Many will be open at 10am serving breakfasts, just no alcohol until 1200. Also Govt has officially recommended all councils to allow alcohol to be served earlier which will encourage even more people to turn out.
 
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Plum said:
Pubs can open whenever they choose, it's when they can start serving alcohol that's the issue. I think a lot of people will go to pubs. Many will be open at 10am serving breakfasts, just no alcohol until 1200. Also Govt has officially recommended all councils to allow alcohol to be served earlier which will encourage even more people to turn out.
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You can get alcohol in pubs way before then in the UK.
 
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Plum said:
Wonder if a factor in that decision was that their games all start at or later than 2pm. Clubs might be making their own arrangements to see the final and still turn up to play.
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They shouldn't have to, Hull City Ladies game is sixty miles from Hull, they shouldn't have to mess about trying to find somewhere in Tadcaster to watch the game. It's the first women's World Cup Final that England have ever got to, not making it easy for every women's footballer to watch is just stupid.

I've just seen that the kick-off has now been delayed and they have arranged to watch it in Tadcaster, but it all seems unnecessarily messy.
 
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Plum said:
Pubs can open whenever they choose, it's when they can start serving alcohol that's the issue. I think a lot of people will go to pubs. Many will be open at 10am serving breakfasts, just no alcohol until 1200. Also Govt has officially recommended all councils to allow alcohol to be served earlier which will encourage even more people to turn out.
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Most UK pubs can serve alcohol from 11.00am on Sunday and councils have been told they should relax rules on issuing 10.00am licenses on this occasion, I don't think people are going to have difficulty getting a pint.
 
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Asterix said:
The Matidas lost 7-0 in a warm up match. To a club team of U15 lads. Those who had reached the pinnacle, beaten by those whose journey is nowhere complete, if only just beginning. I think therein lies the answer to the question of financial equity. Pay seven quid and you can watch Arsenal Ldies. Would you pay 7 quid to watch an U15 lads game? No. How much would you pay to watch them at the pinnacle of their sport?
It is an apple and pears comparison, or, at the same time being two totally different sports governed by the same rules.
The true, the only acid test, the crucible for tomorrows game is....... The Match Thread. here.
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These women are at the pinnacle of their sport. There is no point in comparing men and women. They can only compete against themselves.

Just enjoy it for what it is.
 
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Guardian article suggesting a big payout for supermarkets, pubs and advertisers. The retail spend figure is estimated to be 137.8 million, total 185 million tothe local economy. Wow, impressive. Until you reach the bottom of the article-
"However, UK consumer spend is not expected to match the levels seen in December when England reached the quarter-finals of the men’s World Cup in Qatar, which gave a £1.8bn boost to the economy."

I would suggest on those figures, financial parity is a long way off. And also the netorks and advertisers payments to FIFA were correct. Here in the UK alone that is.
 
Drew said:
These women are at the pinnacle of their sport. There is no point in comparing men and women. They can only compete against themselves.

Just enjoy it for what it is.
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Agree, why I said apples and pears. And more importantly, two different sports played under the same set of rules. I will watch and hopefully my enjoyment turns to delight with a win. Will I go and watch City Ladies next home game? No.
 
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Asterix said:
The Matidas lost 7-0 in a warm up match. To a club team of U15 lads. Those who had reached the pinnacle, beaten by those whose journey is nowhere complete, if only just beginning. I think therein lies the answer to the question of financial equity. Pay seven quid and you can watch Arsenal Ldies. Would you pay 7 quid to watch an U15 lads game? No. How much would you pay to watch them at the pinnacle of their sport?
It is an apple and pears comparison, or, at the same time being two totally different sports governed by the same rules.
The true, the only acid test, the crucible for tomorrows game is....... The Match Thread. here.
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The Matidas lost 7-0 in a warm up match.

What you say here also highlights how all this WOKE nonsense allowing men who suddenly decide they are a woman to compete against them and wipe the floor with them.
 
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Asterix said:
Agree, why I said apples and pears. And more importantly, two different sports played under the same set of rules. I will watch and hopefully my enjoyment turns to delight with a win. Will I go and watch City Ladies next home game? No.
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I don’t see it as two sports though. It’s football, it’s the same game.

The Australia v England game was the best I’ve seen in ages. I don’t really understand why people have to always draw the comparisons to be honest.
 
Drew said:
I don’t see it as two sports though. It’s football, it’s the same game.

The Australia v England game was the best I’ve seen in ages. I don’t really understand why people have to always draw the comparisons to be honest.
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Seriously? THE best? Shame you were not at Wembley in 2008 when City were there. Australia England not even in my top thousand.
 
originallambrettaman said:
They shouldn't have to, Hull City Ladies game is sixty miles from Hull, they shouldn't have to mess about trying to find somewhere in Tadcaster to watch the game. It's the first women's World Cup Final that England have ever got to, not making it easy for every women's footballer to watch is just stupid.

I've just seen that the kick-off has now been delayed and they have arranged to watch it in Tadcaster, but it all seems unnecessarily messy.
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I'd guess most sides will be making similar arrangements. Seems messy but I don't know how messy it is to rearrange all the fixtures, especially given most players will have other commitments.
 
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