Winter transfer window

[Wayne the Punk]

Probably could’ve tried that but their 2 CB’s are also massive so no saying it would work. We could’ve set up 5 at the back too which would’ve helped but we didn’t. Just think it was poor all over tbh.

Kevin Kyle up top would have made a difference

 

[The Norton Cat]

We had no nothing at all though we were poor all over mate the striker was the least of our worries on Saturday. Midfielders needing 5 minutes of the ball, defenders lunging in at the first given opportunity and having the piss taken out of them, wingers not tracking their men. Don’t think he would’ve done much in that game it was poor from start to finish IMO but I do agree he’ll be good for us.

Just getting him in won’t massively improve us

Not the case at all. We had to play out from the back because the ball was never going to stick up top if we went direct. Rusyn is a quality centre forward but he's not the type to hold it up. He wants balls over the top or into space to chase. Absolutely the right player when we're dominating possession but when we're not, we need a different option. A CF who can hold it up will make a massive difference to the squad because it will give us a Plan B.

 

[Wayne the Punk]

Not the case at all. We had to play out from the back because the ball was never going to stick up top if we went direct. Rusyn is a quality centre forward but he's not the type to hold it up. He wants balls over the top or into space to chase. Absolutely the right player when we're dominating possession but when we're not, we need a different option. A CF who can hold it up will make a massive difference to the squad because it will give us a Plan B.

Same page as me marra

 

[young2077]

It was the lack of a plan he was shocked at and the missing owner he was angry at.
He refused to work with the McKays something I support if I’m honest. They are poison and Sam is an criminal.,Unfortunately they had all the power and as we saw with Kone, balls were taken home. Not excusing his statement or some of his decisions but the inability to provide us with a budget for a striker in the January window was the final nail on the coffin. Koyes should have walked at that point then it would have been clear.

Plan for what, recruitment moving the club forward/improving? I'm shocked he was in the job before he knew this, I mean companies bullshit and lie in interviews to get people in so it's possible but as I said it was known there was something not quite right so why didn't he do more to push them on a plan before he took the job? If a plan is what he wanted.

The agent stuff fair enough, it was said at the time they had been offered new contracts by BSA but they never happened once he left. One question about this though hasn't it been suggested before that Moyes does similar and like to work with a certain agent who is a family member?

****ing hell the model of head coach is so much better! It's grim thinking managers sign players on how much they can make on the deal, not always what's the best deal for the club! What stops a manager chucking a extra £0.5-1 million at a deal if it makes him £50k?

Would be called insider trading on the stock market?

 

[young2077]

Moyes brother is an agent, along with Viola were the ones the club dealt with, during his term here.

You have just answered my question from a different reply. I said doesn't Moyes do similar and use a agent that is a family member. So he didn't stop using BSA agent pal cause of morals but because he wasn't getting the cut!

 

[Wayne the Punk]

Probably could’ve tried that but their 2 CB’s are also massive so no saying it would work. We could’ve set up 5 at the back too which would’ve helped but we didn’t. Just think it was poor all over tbh.

Just the option would have made a big difference

 

[Iain]

N’Dong - 14m
Djilobodji - 8m
McNair - 5m (fair enough)
Love - 1.5m
Gibson - 2.5m
Oviedo - 2.5m
Anichebe - free?
Denayer - ?
Lescott - ?

He had the funds to improve a side that was on the up when Big Sam went and he completely dismantled it and ****ed everything up.

He never signed N"Dong, that was already in the pipeline even though Big Sam said he didn't think he was worth anywhere near what they were asking

 

[Wayne the Punk]

He never signed N"Dong, that was already in the pipeline even though Big Sam said he didn't think he was worth anywhere near what they were asking

Could he have said no?

 

[Washysafc]

So ten days in, have we actually been linked with any serious transfer?

 

[Southern A]

So ten days in, have we actually been linked with any serious transfer?

No, but to be honest we weren't in the summer either. Things didn't really leak until literally the day of the signing. And I remember Seelt (at least) didn't leak AT ALL

 

[Culinary]

Not the case at all. We had to play out from the back because the ball was never going to stick up top if we went direct. Rusyn is a quality centre forward but he's not the type to hold it up. He wants balls over the top or into space to chase. Absolutely the right player when we're dominating possession but when we're not, we need a different option. A CF who can hold it up will make a massive difference to the squad because it will give us a Plan B.

Moore isn’t a Premier League quality centre forward. Can you really say with certainty that he could have made long balls stick when up against two big, physical Premier League centre halves?

 

[Wayne the Punk]

Moore isn’t a Premier League quality centre forward. Can you really say with certainty that he could have made long balls stick when up against two big, physical Premier League centre halves?

I can say 100% it would have stuck more than it did

 

[Iain]

Could he have said no?

Don't know mate , not sure who was making the decisions at the club then, very possibly but there's always been instances where clubs have signed players a manager didn't want.
All I know is Big Sam liked the look of N"Dong but when he saw the price tag said he was far too expensive because he needed put in the development squad as he was nowhere near premier league standard yet, and we couldn't break the transfer record for someone that wasn't ready for first team football

 

[The Norton Cat]

Moore isn’t a Premier League quality centre forward. Can you really say with certainty that he could have made long balls stick when up against two big, physical Premier League centre halves?

No, he might have had a torrid time against them. But I wasn't referring to Moore specifically. Any player who can play that type of game would have given us a better chance of playing a more direct game to beat their press. Rusyn, although he tried and won a couple of headers that he had no right to, isn't that type of player.

 

[Robref62]

Kevin Kyle up top would have made a difference

Jeremy Kyle would have

 

[TopCat.]

Kevin Kyle up top would have made a difference

Would have made us poorer

 

[Wayne the Punk]

Jeremy Kyle would have

 

[Hudson92]

Luke Ayling off to boro on loan, had injuries but a solid option for them

 

[Scootsie]

He would make a difference obviously but we need more than just him. Our players aren’t as good as some make out and adding one big lump up top won’t turn us into challengers overnight.

Players are being recalled left right and centre then sent to other/better clubs. Shows the importance of loans at this level and we’re not arsed by the looks of it. I said yesterday I’m reserving judgement until the end of the window but I don’t think we’ll offer to pay as much of a contribution of Moores wages as some of the other clubs around us and that’s what’ll decide where he goes.

He isn’t just a big lump to be fair though, he can play.

I’m still gutted we lost Stewart to the injury because he was perfect for this side.

 

[Pure River Slut]

Plan for what, recruitment moving the club forward/improving? I'm shocked he was in the job before he knew this, I mean companies bullshit and lie in interviews to get people in so it's possible but as I said it was known there was something not quite right so why didn't he do more to push them on a plan before he took the job? If a plan is what he wanted.

The agent stuff fair enough, it was said at the time they had been offered new contracts by BSA but they never happened once he left. One question about this though hasn't it been suggested before that Moyes does similar and like to work with a certain agent who is a family member?

****ing hell the model of head coach is so much better! It's grim thinking managers sign players on how much they can make on the deal, not always what's the best deal for the club! What stops a manager chucking a extra £0.5-1 million at a deal if it makes him £50k?

Would be called insider trading on the stock market?

I would agree that the whole thing - Moyes, BSA, Short etc is evidence that we are so much better off. People having tantrums about the club not signing players must have forgotten how unbelievably ****e many of our previous signings, processes and methods were and how much money they wasted.