Winter transfer window

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??? On who?

Thought it was 2.5ish. Mundle was only 1m sterling. 1.3m Euros.
Sounded like mundle was nearer to 2 n hjelde was about the same - i kmow leeds were wanting 2 million for him as my club enquired (not sure if we paud that or not tho i just know thats what they wanted at the start of jan)

Even if its 3 million overall thats a decent % of the total spent
 
Aye. That was the key driver in his departure. It's also the key driver why we need and keep getting younger lads. Wages.
Sensible way to do things as long as we can renew the contracts we want too - which we seem to be doing

This model will be frustrating at times but i really do believe in the long run we will have success with it

We need patience at times n lets be honest thats tough at times as we all want us to be succesful straight away

A few yrs ago i would have bitten someone's hand off to be in this position as a club
 
Don't forget we got £100k for pritch, so that's to come off our spend, and that's £13k p week off the wage bill.

That's great, I dread to think how much money we've thrown away over the years. It's especially bad when you know the value of a player, like Pritchatd, is continually decreasing. At their age panic sets in and the length of a contract becomes critical to them especially if they're injury prone and cant last 90 minutes..
 
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I'd say this model is iterative. We will have ups and downs as certain players hit the ground running and others need time and/or minutes elsewhere.
Starting to think finishing 6th last year was the worst thing that could have happened to us - expectations were ridiculously heightened - one of the podcasts predicted we'd finish 2nd this year!!

I think the club had got more right than they have wrong in terms of recruitment in the 2/3 years and it's nice to see some medium to long term planning for a change...

I think what it's proven is that the model needs to be more adaptable. Mid table is what we were planning for to bed these lads into the league, which would have been absolutely fine looking back.

Finishing 6th presented us with an early opportunity to push on that we haven't been able to adapt to, unfortunately. We've just trundled on like we finished 12th last year, and the expectation has risen.

The failure to adequately replace Stewart is the most glaring example of the inflexibility.

It was a successful season by any metric last year, but you can't sit still and assume the current plan is still adequate given your faster than anticipated progress. Static models don't last long.
 
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I think what it's proven is that the model needs to be more adaptable. Mid table is what we were planning for to bed these lads into the league, which would have been absolutely fine looking back.

Finishing 6th presented us with an early opportunity to push on that we haven't been able to adapt to, unfortunately. We've just trundled on like we finished 12th last year, and the expectation has risen.

The failure to adequately replace Stewart is the most glaring example of the inflexibility.

It was a successful season by any metric last year, but you can't sit still and assume the current plan is still adequate given your faster than anticipated progress.
But it's not just about progress on the pitch, it clearly has to be about financial progress too. Building this sustainability is what will ultimately secure our position in the Premier League.
 
Loans are great but for me , we are becoming a team that's buying and spending money, to then loan players out. Not improving the immediate first 11 so progress seems to slow or halt. When I say zero chance, I mean zero chance to impress here, in our first 11. I mean Mayenda looked canny, then just loaned out. Then we go and buy a player in the exact same position, similar age with nearly zero mens experience for another million.

If this pattern continues , Mundle will probably be out on loan in the summer
i think where we have signed makes sense to have young one

you've got clarke
so weren't going to get another out and out winger like him so mundle is perfect for his under study

the LB from leeds played and can do a job so should hit the ground running who can then also move over to cb when cirkin is back
and then styles has more games in the league then any of are midfielders,

people keep mentioning the summer but most of them actually played men's football

and to be honest and i think seelt rusyn jobe auchie and pembele are already ready to step in

auchie and pembele have 80-100 games between them them in the top french league aswell

so when people keep saying we just got kids in the summer who weren't ready isn't true
 
I think what it's proven is that the model needs to be more adaptable. Mid table is what we were planning for to bed these lads into the league, which would have been absolutely fine looking back.

Finishing 6th presented us with an early opportunity to push on that we haven't been able to adapt to, unfortunately. We've just trundled on like we finished 12th last year, and the expectation has risen.

The failure to adequately replace Stewart is the most glaring example of the inflexibility.

It was a successful season by any metric last year, but you can't sit still and assume the current plan is still adequate given your faster than anticipated progress. Static models don't last long.

Finding him in the first place proves just the opposite imo.. Only injury prevented it from being the best venture into the transfer market this club has made in modern times This has been a very satisfactory window, some will never see it , for one reason or another.. Only gripe I have is the window is far to long and takes up far too much of everybody's time and should be reduced for all our sakes. OaU
 
Finding him in the first place proves just the opposite imo.. Only injury prevented it from being the best venture into the transfer market this club has made in modern times This has been a very satisfactory window, some will never see it , for one reason or another.. Only gripe I have is the window is far to long and takes up far too much of everybody's time and should be reduced for all our sakes. OaU

You have to find players like that every couple of years for the model to work.
 
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Dont really agree with the zero chance aspect, sending players out on loan can fast track their development if done right which then helps them make an impact quicker for us

Henderson had a good loan at coventry before making an impact for us, pickford n patterson has key loans that really helped them

I think loaning players out is a great thing

We needed more experience and styles def has the experience we were asking for, hjelde has played in the championship n the spl so has played in physical leagues before so we have added a bit of experience to the team
If they aren't going to be getting game time with us it makes so much more sense to send them out on loan where hopefully they will play week in week out. Much better for their development than 10 minutes every 4 weeks
 
Finding him in the first place proves just the opposite imo.. Only injury prevented it from being the best venture into the transfer market this club has made in modern times This has been a very satisfactory window, some will never see it , for one reason or another.. Only gripe I have is the window is far to long and takes up far too much of everybody's time and should be reduced for all our sakes. OaU
Have to say I woke up today thinking I am pleased that is over for a few more months. It is long winded and draining. Must be worse if you are working in it. Mind you an agent mate of mine always says a lot less actually gets worked on behind the scenes than there are rumours in the media.
 
Have to say I woke up today thinking I am pleased that is over for a few more months. It is long winded and draining. Must be worse if you are working in it. Mind you an agent mate of mine always says a lot less actually gets worked on behind the scenes than there are rumours in the media.
Watched sky last night and you could sense how desperate they were to be part of the window media extravaganza. Two presenters had a 9 dart competition and an x spurs and Watford player believed spurs and Watford had had the best window... sad I actually watched it.

Was expecting a possible negative backlash on here this morning, but glad to say all comments so far have been fair and realistic. As scout said, a 7 out of 10, seems a good window for us.
 
If they aren't going to be getting game time with us it makes so much more sense to send them out on loan where hopefully they will play week in week out. Much better for their development than 10 minutes every 4 weeks

Hopefully they'll be straight into their teams from now til the end of the season. Mayenda in particular.

Now if we can get a foot right up Hemir's arse and get him working....
 
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This window fits into the model, which I have said before would see us with our youngest squad in the process. We have moved quickly to a model based on buying / recruiting young technically talented players with potential. This should mean that from now on we will see the average age increase as the kids develop and get experience in the first team. Yes we will sell one or two of our most valuable assets in the next phase and the key then will be upping the quality of the kids we bring in. In time I would like to think we bring in players of the quality of Amad, not as a loan but as ours.

it will take time and that is always going to be frustrating.

I am old enough to remember Alan Brown and his five year plan. In many ways it was not dissimilar to the current plan. He focused on youth development, resulting in Sunderland winning the FA youth cup and several of that team played in the 1973 cup final, all be it Alan Brown had been sacked by then.