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LD19SAFC said:
No thanks. Sign a proper CDM and let O’Nien take his place on that bench.
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I love O'Nein and I think a lot of the **** he gets is completely unwarranted, I personally believe defence is not the biggest issue and most of the problems there could be resolved by playing a proper CDM.

Saying that he would be a real asset on the bench as he can play virtually anywhere on the pitch.
 
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Pure River Slut said:
I agree with this. I do think we have to be better commercially. Arguably that’s what they tried to do with the mags game but ballsed it up. Simple fact is if we don’t have extra income we don’t compete.
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Think that’s why Roger’s was brought in , hopefully he will rejuvenate the commercial side of the club which shouldn’t be a difficult task as he is working from a low base . Biggest problem he will have is deciding how to prioritise as their is so many issues requiring fixing .
 
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The Norton Cat said:
a) No, he's trying to run the club sustainably so we're not reliant on a sugar daddy in the form of billionaire (look what happened with the last billionaire) or an oil-rich state with a PR problem.

b) That's why we're investing in youth and trying to make a name as a club who will develop young players.

c) It's got us quite a long way from where we were when he arrived

d) It is sustainable (at least in theory), that's the point of it.

e) what do you mean it's not sustainable for Sunderland fans? It's either sustainable or its not. I'm a Sunderland fan and I think its a great idea

f) what's wrong with that? Our (the collective we, obvs) money is running the club so 'we' have more of a connection to it. Its not a local club if a foreign billionaire pays foreign mercenaries to come and half-arsedly keep us just above the Premier League relegation zone.
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Absolutely. Sustainability is the only way forward. Once the Prem and EFL fully implement the New UEFA ffp rules and the new regulator gets in place then what we are trying to do will become the norm We’ll all become familiar with Squad Cost Ratio. Which eventually will have to be kept at 70% of turnover.
The times they are a changing
 
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Bob the Mackem said:
OK my view, he's looking to fulfill his mams hopes of being able to run a club like his dad,
He will not use his own money, so we have to sell to invest, that's never gonna work up in the NE its hard enough to get players here paying good money.
What we got from the 3 sales Ross Hadj and Gooch has gone on the infrastructure of the club.
Well thats all well and good, but that don't get you up the league.
We are just treading water because he believes what KS has brainwashed him into believing, that this modle is sustainable well not for Sunderland fans its not, not when a Billionaire buys us and does not invest his own money, just uses local hard working folks money.
He is treating us as an experiment to see if he can handle bigger things abroad.
With Juan moving into politics again, it will be interesting to see who joins KLD when Juan sells his shares.
It won't be his family coming on board.
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I've seen these arguments before and I can't begin to understand them.

You're saying KLD is only doing all this to suck up to his mother.

Also that, despite being brought up in football, and having his own advisers, accountants and solicitors not to mention a very intelligent fellow shareholder, he's being brainwashed by a bloke from Birmingham.

But what puzzles me most is when people say we can't get players to come here despite Hume, Huggins, Cirkin, Ekwah, Ballard, Clarke, Roberts, etc, many of whom came from PL clubs and worth more than we paid.


We haven't tread water since he arrived. He did what Donald and Methven had failed to do and taken us to the top half of the Championship.

We're a far better club now than we were when those clowns were here using the supporters money.
 
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sheepman said:
Absolutely. Sustainability is the only way forward. Once the Prem and EFL fully implement the New UEFA ffp rules and the new regulator gets in place then what we are trying to do will become the norm We’ll all become familiar with Squad Cost Ratio. Which eventually will have to be kept at 90% of turnover.
The times they are a changing
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I'm aware I probably make too many comparisons to non-league football, but the principles are the same if the scales are different, and I know it well. I've been a volunteer on the technical side of things at four different non-league clubs now and spent time at others due to family members being involved. One thing is clear about the financial state of these clubs- the most stable clubs are the ones that are self-sustaining and that are not reliant on a rich benefactor.
 
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sheepman said:
Absolutely. Sustainability is the only way forward. Once the Prem and EFL fully implement the New UEFA ffp rules and the new regulator gets in place then what we are trying to do will become the norm We’ll all become familiar with Squad Cost Ratio. Which eventually will have to be kept at 90% of turnover.
The times they are a changing
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Its 70% of turnover mate, pretty sure thats by 2025 as well
 
Smug in Boots said:
Some people keep saying that, with just a little more spending, the club can make the play-offs, promotion and the massive income that brings.

So, if as you say KLD is really in it for money why do you think he's not doing that?

He clearly has the money and, if as you claim he has no real interest in the club, could waltz away with a massive return on his outlay. The longer he stays, in this league, the more difficult it may become ... so why not get the job done, pocket the loot and wave goodbye suckers.

I'm really interested, it's a serious question.

It seems some want to see the owner as unwilling to spend and profit orientated simultaneously ...

... imo it can't be both.
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I've made my peace with the thought that there is a section of our fan base that will moan/complain whatever the situation. We could be took over by a Sunderland born multi-billionaire and go on a run like Man City have experienced...Win trophies, buy top top players before sell out crowds every week and some will STILL find a way to bitch about something.
Having supported this club for 60 years apart from the last few months (which haven't been Stella) The ownership of our great club has been first class...but the smallest of blips will always bring out those whose agenda is to whinge on....its what gets them through the day.
 
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The Norton Cat said:
a) No, he's trying to run the club sustainably so we're not reliant on a sugar daddy in the form of billionaire (look what happened with the last billionaire) or an oil-rich state with a PR problem.
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The only note to add to that is that no club has ever been promoted from this division without making a financial loss.
Now, everything is unprecedented until it happens AND we came mightily close last season, but stats are stats.
 
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