Transfer Rumours Winter 2025 Transfer Thread

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Exactly. Plus most teams are now utilising modern strategies like the double pivot or a reginageorge and there is just no place for a big clobber like him in todays game at the higher levels.

If you think Ash was a just a big clobber then shame on you

His ability to read the game was amazing and more than made up for any lack of ball skills
 
I stand by my original opinion, Ashbee was a decent captain but an average player. The longer he's retired the better he seems to become, more heresy to follow. :emoticon-0138-think


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I don't believe what I read on here sometimes. How can anyone even question the ability of the greatest club captain this club has ever had? Even if he had one leg and played in a blindfold what Ian Ashbee achieved as captain of this club to take us from the old division 4 to the Premier League was truly amazing and will never be repeated. There should be a statue outside the stadium to this man, he is a club legend in every sense of the word. To even question his playing ability is an insult to him and all he stood for.

Jesus Christ, some people on here are so dramatic.
 
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I stand by my original opinion, Ashbee was a decent captain but an average player. The longer he's retired the better he seems to become, more heresy to follow. :emoticon-0138-think


The views expressed in my posts are not necessarily mine.

I’d argue he’s the best captain we ever had and a club legend but still an average footballer.

Apparently, that’s blasphemy and an insult to the man though.
 
Matt Crooks will be City's first signing of the window when his move from MLS side Real Salt Lake is confirmed, with the dynamic midfielder signing a two-and-a-half-year deal with the Tigers.

It's hoped Crooks will be followed by more new arrivals, with City in talks with Leeds over a loan move for striker Joe Gelhardt, who was on the bench at the weekend and is understood to be keen to push the move forward and make it happen.

City have also agreed a fee with a selling club over a winger with extensive Championship experience, with a conclusion on that deal expected in the next 24 hours or so. The Tigers are also in talks with two clubs over two defenders, again, a pre-requisite being the need to have played regularly in the second tier.

Willy Boly is a player of interest but getting him out of Nottingham Forest will not be easy with the Reds more likely to sanction the departure of Andrew Omobamidele, unless they can bring in adequate cover. Former target Ryan Porteous is another player the Tigers like, and could be on his way out of Watford.

The Tigers hierarchy is acutely aware of the club's perilous position at the bottom end of the league and believes players that have vast experience of the level are key to supplementing what Selles already has at his disposal.

Louie Barry is another key target for City but the East Yorkshire club face a battle to prize him away from Aston Villa in the next week or so. The Tigers have a good working relationship with the Premier League club, but know other clubs higher up the league are also keen to sign the 21-year-old hotshot who has bagged 15 goals for Stockport County in the League One promotion race this term.
I see Ryan Porteous is captaining Watford tonight.
 
Ashbee himself admitted he wouldn’t last 5 minutes in todays game
Neither would Ken Wagstaff or any past player you care to mention for that matter but no-one is rubbishing him on a 'fans' forum. Especially one who captained this club through all four divisions and came back from a career threatening injury to lead the team out into the PL and our first ever FA Cup Final.
 
Not even sure Ashbee was average at this level, not in terms of footballing skill. But what he did have was an acute self awareness of what he was actually capable of and what he wasn’t, and confidence to play to the best of his ability consistently. Which meant his lack of skill was never exposed nor hindered him stepping up each division.
 
Neither would Ken Wagstaff or any past player you care to mention for that matter but no-one is rubbishing him on a 'fans' forum. Especially one who captained this club through all four divisions and came back from a career threatening injury to lead the team out into the PL and our first ever FA Cup Final.
Decent captain, average player, if that's rubbishing him I'm losing my touch! :emoticon-0103-cool:


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Neither would Ken Wagstaff or any past player you care to mention for that matter but no-one is rubbishing him on a 'fans' forum. Especially one who captained this club through all four divisions and came back from a career threatening injury to lead the team out into the PL and our first ever FA Cup Final.

Ashbee had already left City for Preston and retired before our FA Cup Final.
 
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If you think Ash was a just a big clobber then shame on you

His ability to read the game was amazing and more than made up for any lack of ball skills

A big clobber is exactly what he was. I’m sorry what else was he? A master technician pinging 80 yard cross field balls and curling them into the top corner from 30 yards? He was a big clobber, breaking up play (and Sometimes breaking the opponents too) and recovering the ball, that’s what he did and he was very good at it.

We can pretend he was the pioneering Kevin De Bruyne though if it makes you happy.
 
A big clobber is exactly what he was. I’m sorry what else was he? A master technician pinging 80 yard cross field balls and curling them into the top corner from 30 yards? He was a big clobber, breaking up play (and Sometimes breaking the opponents too) and recovering the ball, that’s what he did and he was very good at it.

We can pretend he was the pioneering Kevin De Bruyne though if it makes you happy.

So you saying a player is either a big clobber or master technician?

As I already said Ash was a master of reading the game and timing a tackle. Yes he'd stick one on the opposition when needed but there was more too his game then that.
 
A big clobber is exactly what he was. I’m sorry what else was he? A master technician pinging 80 yard cross field balls and curling them into the top corner from 30 yards? He was a big clobber, breaking up play (and Sometimes breaking the opponents too) and recovering the ball, that’s what he did and he was very good at it.

We can pretend he was the pioneering Kevin De Bruyne though if it makes you happy.
I think that’s the confusion , some people are classing footballer as been able to do all those things you’ve mentioned . John Terry and Tony Adams couldn’t do any of those things but many would regard them as great footballers . There are many aspects of been a footballer , Thierry Henry couldn’t smash into 3 players at once like Harry Maguire did . Many like me believe , the way he captained us through the divisions made him an unbelievable footballer for us , some people think to be a footballer you have to be able to dribble past 10 men , each to their own .. anyway , we signed anyone yet?