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oozkan said:
To be honest, if Acun sells club, I'd be OK with it, he keeps tweeting about Fener-Gala duels like an hour ago, last time he tweeted about Hull was months ago, May 1st. I don't think there is a commitment towards us these days, even financially. Moreover his business is not doing well lately, all his program formats are in decline, he has been running exact same formats for years and people eventually got bored, most watched shows and even football games on his platform are no longer there, no need to mention decline of TV business in general for Turkey and making enemy out of Gala fans by attacking them day by day didn't help cause either, which is the largest fanbase in country amounts to 30 million. In addition to all of that and probably most important, his political support is dying.
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That's a fairly gloomy picture you've painted there oozkan, I hope you're wrong!
 
Boringly repetitive
Anyone want to name their best team picked from players playing in the last two years??
Pandur
Coyle jones greaves
Seri Morton
Philogene Tufan carvalho
Delap
Don’t ask me about a left back probably slater there

the end
 
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SydneyTiger14 said:
That doesn't really address the point I made? I also don't think signing Philogene last season is any easier than signing Belloumi this season for roughly the same fee. Yet one is 'backing' the manager more than the other..??
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I’m jumping in without reading it all to be honest
 
Chazz Rheinhold said:
Boringly repetitive
Anyone want to name their best team picked from players playing in the last two years??
Pandur
Coyle jones greaves
Seri Morton
Philogene Tufan carvalho
Delap
Don’t ask me about a left back probably slater there

the end
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Swap Allsop for Pandur and I think you’re probably about on the money there.
 
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NewcastleTiger said:
It’s much easier to build on top of an established core.
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I don't even think there's a huge difference there either. We turn over loads of players every summer. Rosenior last year had to do the same nonsense Walter did this year of playing a totally half-baked squad through August until the rest of the squad came on deadline day. Ok this summer we signed 15 players or whatever it was, pretty sure it was over 10 the year before too. Less but not massively different. It's really not like Rosenior just added a couple of players here and there, it was a rebuild like it always is.
 
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Chazz Rheinhold said:
Boringly repetitive
Anyone want to name their best team picked from players playing in the last two years??
Pandur
Coyle jones greaves
Seri Morton
Philogene Tufan carvalho
Delap
Don’t ask me about a left back probably slater there

the end
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Yes Chazz, it means we signed players who played better last season. That's got nothing to do with who was 'backed' more in the market. Walter was backed plenty.
 
NewcastleTiger said:
I’m jumping in without reading it all to be honest
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The point was being made that Acun backed LR more than he backed Walter which is rubbish. We just made a mess of this window more than we did last summer. We spent more money this summer on more players but have ended up in a worse spot. That's on the manager and that's on the recruitment team. It's nothing to do with one manager being backed more or less than the other. Both were backed to the hilt.
 
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PLT said:
I don't even think there's a huge difference there either. We turn over loads of players every summer. Rosenior last year had to do the same nonsense Walter did this year of playing a totally half-baked squad through August until the rest of the squad came on deadline day. Ok this summer we signed 15 players or whatever it was, pretty sure it was over 10 the year before too. Less but not massively different. It's really not like Rosenior just added a couple of players here and there, it was a rebuild like it always is.
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Everyone is conveniently forgetting this. The squad that started against Norwich last season was totally different to the one that played at the end of the window.

He had us 5th. We decided to throw in the chips and it’s lead us to here.
 
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PLT said:
I don't even think there's a huge difference there either. We turn over loads of players every summer. Rosenior last year had to do the same nonsense Walter did this year of playing a totally half-baked squad through August until the rest of the squad came on deadline day. Ok this summer we signed 15 players or whatever it was, pretty sure it was over 10 the year before too. Less but not massively different. It's really not like Rosenior just added a couple of players here and there, it was a rebuild like it always is.
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I think last summer was fairly standard by most championship window standards. Not all the players brought in were guaranteed starters in summer. Pretty much everyone we’ve brought in this year has been with the intent to become a starter.
 
HCAFCHangout said:
Everyone is conveniently forgetting this. The squad that started against Norwich last season was totally different to the one that played at the end of the window.

He had us 5th. We decided to throw in the chips and it’s lead us to here.
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Vaughan started against Norwich last season! Says it all.
 
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SydneyTiger14 said:
The point was being made that Acun backed LR more than he backed Walter which is rubbish. We just made a mess of this window more than we did last summer. We spent more money this summer on more players but have ended up in a worse spot. That's on the manager and that's on the recruitment team. It's nothing to do with one manager being backed more or less than the other. Both were backed to the hilt.
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That is rubbish.

Both have been backed as much as possible, I do sympathise with Walter though as he was pretty much begging for players at one stage. Tactics deserve criticism but the players are letting him down at the minute. Each of the last 3 games, they’ve had more than enough to win them comfortably. That is a fact. Unfortunately, this is where the tactic criticism comes in, they’ve not capitalised and they’ve been sussed by the opposition or ****ed up leading to them being allowed to sit back and kill the game
 
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HCAFCHangout said:
Everyone is conveniently forgetting this. The squad that started against Norwich last season was totally different to the one that played at the end of the window.

He had us 5th. We decided to throw in the chips and it’s lead us to here.
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The biggest mistake the club has made since Acun took over was pushing too much in January, with one of the strongest ever top 4s in the division.

The chances of promotion were always slim.
 
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Drew said:
The biggest mistake the club has made since Acun took over was pushing too much in January, with one of the strongest ever top 4s in the division.

The chances of promotion were always slim.
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Plus we could have done half the business and held our position.

Considering we hardly played anyone but Carvallo and Omur of the January incomings - I wonder if Liam just wanted tweaks and an overly excited owner pushed the kitchen sink at him. To the detriment of cohesion.
 
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SydneyTiger14 said:
The point was being made that Acun backed LR more than he backed Walter which is rubbish. We just made a mess of this window more than we did last summer. We spent more money this summer on more players but have ended up in a worse spot. That's on the manager and that's on the recruitment team. It's nothing to do with one manager being backed more or less than the other. Both were backed to the hilt.
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We didn't back LR enough that summer. Missing out on Keinan Davis was a blow and we finished the window a couple of wingers short.

Aiming for the Top 6 when your only right-winger is Lokilo is just laughable
 
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Shark Sports said:
We didn't back LR enough that summer. Missing out on Keinan Davis was a blow and we finished the window a couple of wingers short.

Aiming for the Top 6 when your only right-winger is Lokilo is just laughable
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We dodged a bullet with Davis. We should have gone all in for Moore after Delap got injured. Signed a solid left back as opposed to a wingback who didn't fit Liam or Walters style cos he can't defend. 4m spunked on that. For what?

Yeah blame Rosenior for not getting the best from him but Walter isn't either. That's because he's a wingback, not a winger, not a left back.

Either get a manager who uses wingbacks or don't sign the player.
 
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