Match Day Thread Vs Watford (A)

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moreinjuredthanowen said:
Now in fairness they had a well organised high press and showed far more desire than lfc. Clear issues of fitness and frankly they should get vvd ;)

Imo their high press was easily beaten second half but the lack of ability to change when klopp had two or three breaks in play to pass instructions was scandalous
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We should have put the game to bed in the second half. A tad unlucky and a few missed chances. But sometimes that happens and you need the defensive properties to keep goals out. All 3 easily avoidable. I was/am disgusted. It's lazy.
 
That 3rd goal. Ignoring the offside, its actually Mignolet who puts it in. The ball was going nowhere and in his desperation to get something on it, it comes off his hand and goes towards goal
 
jaffaklopp said:
That 3rd goal. Ignoring the offside, its actually Mignolet who puts it in. The ball was going nowhere and in his desperation to get something on it, it comes off his hand and goes towards goal
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He was level with play imo so not offside.

Mingolet clearly panicked
 
KENNY_KLOPP_KING said:
I was all for giving Mignolet a chance after his improved showings last year. Unfortunately, he's come back as the old Mignolet and we've missed the opportunity to get a better keeper in. I was wrong.
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KARIUS IS WORSE:emoticon-0102-bigsm
The ****ing state of him in preseason... and klopp didn't exactly give mingolet a lot of chances compared to karius.
 
Well I think our defence will be suspect and give away a few goals like last season.

The main worry was a lack of pace and goal threat but we have hopefully sorted that out with a couple of recent signings.
 
KENNY_KLOPP_KING said:
On the little he had to do yesterday, Pickering looked good. Think you've possible got a bargain there given the market.
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Pickford didn't look bad either mate :)

I said when we signed him, that the fee is large but he could be our keeper for 10 years plus. He had a cracking debut.
 
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Tobes said:
Pickford didn't look bad either mate :)

I said when we signed him, that the fee is large but he could be our keeper for 10 years plus. He had a cracking debut.
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<laugh> must have changed it! I read it back too!!

True test will be when he's a bit busier (as Ming was yesterday). But yeah, looked good as did Rooney in a deep role yesterday.
 
Jigsawklopp said:
How can Moreno please you people?. He may need to score hat -trick and we win the game
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No - he needs to defend. There were a handful of occasions yesterday, especially in the first half, when he was scampering off up the field hoping for an early pass when he should have been holding back to cover a defender under pressure. He and Can conspired to give away the throw that led to the second goal by trying to be too clever.
He is a part of our all out attack philosophy, which I like for the most part, but taken to extremes can lead you to come unstuck.
Let's see how he does in the next few games, but a couple of decent pre-season performances doesn't yet convince me that he's learned how to hold his runs until it's safe to go.
 
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King Shergar said:
Having watched yesterday's game, my honest assessment of Liverpool, would not be particularly great in terms of your chances this season.

Yeah you are very strong in attack, Mane, Firminho and the new signing Salah all looked dangerous and will probably score lots of goals this season. A good start for them anyways all getting off the mark in the first game.

There are massive problems defensively, that you are gonna need that attack to be scoring 3 or 4 goals a game just to get anything from a game. The problem you'll have is keeping them all fit, as you have no quality in reserve like some of the other CL clubs have if they do get injured.

The equalising goal at the end just sums up Liverpool at the back down to a tee, a complete calamity defensively. What was Wijnaldum playing at? That was school boy stuff not dealing with that, and the deflection off Mignolet towards his own goal just sums him up as a goalkeeper.

Klopp wants Virgil Van Dijk, but it's a lot of money and Southampton have still not accepted a deal. Are you telling me that Van Dijk is the only defender in Europe who Klopp could buy who is better than Lovren or Matip?

Klopp clearly has no idea how to coach a defence, nor does he have much nous in the transfer market if he can't think of one alternative to Van Dijk.

Same with that Keita fella, yeah he's a top player, but their are plenty of other players on a similar level who would be available. You've got to have a plan B in the transfer market, as your never going to get your first choice targets all the time.

Either way Van Dijk may well help improve your defence, but he's no miracle worker. You still would need a couple more defenders and definitely a new goalkeeper before you'd be solid in defence.
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90% right, but you're letting your (understandable) bias get the better of you if you're lumping Matip in the the same bracket as Lovren. There were times in that second half that Matip was dealing with every high ball on his own.

But as to Windy - I didn't like heading the ball when I was a full back at schoolboy level: our sports teacher just blasted balls at me for weeks every lunch break, rain hail or shine, until I got over it. No matter what system you use for defending set pieces, you can not legislate for a professional footballer closing his eyes and flinching - cowardly and pathetic. And Firmino was not better for their first - the problem with zonal marking is that the attacker gets to pick who he's up against, and he was hardly likely to match up against Matip or Lovren when, if the cross was good enough, he could run against Bobby or Windy. Bobby didn't even jump - he flinched and gurned an action face circa Goal! in 1972. Lamentable.
 
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Jigsawklopp said:
How can Moreno please you people?. He may need to score hat -trick and we win the game
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I agree. He wasn't good yesterday, but TTA was woeful in that first half, and Lovren... well that was a good pass to Bobby for our third. Otherwise matip was on his own. Think we're missing the point that the two set pieces they scored from was mainly down to our midfielders being useless at defending them, headers especially. All three were ****ing hopeless yesterday, completely ****.
 
Markthehorn said:
I was very impressed by Mane and Salah - certainly going to be 2 of the best players in the league I feel.

Just a shame the defence will let you down.
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Sadly amen to that.

Our defence has been ****e for years, we have just been lucky our attack is great.

Can't always get away with it though(ie you score 2 we will get 3), which will be the dif between honours and not.
 
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