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Match Day Thread Vs Watford (A)

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Zanjinho, Aug 8, 2017.

  1. SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING

    SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING Well-Known Member

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    We should have put the game to bed in the second half. A tad unlucky and a few missed chances. But sometimes that happens and you need the defensive properties to keep goals out. All 3 easily avoidable. I was/am disgusted. It's lazy.
     
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    That 3rd goal. Ignoring the offside, its actually Mignolet who puts it in. The ball was going nowhere and in his desperation to get something on it, it comes off his hand and goes towards goal
     
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  3. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    He was level with play imo so not offside.

    Mingolet clearly panicked
     
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  4. SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING

    SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING Well-Known Member

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    I was all for giving Mignolet a chance after his improved showings last year. Unfortunately, he's come back as the old Mignolet and we've missed the opportunity to get a better keeper in. I was wrong.
     
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  5. ademuzzy

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    Mings was flapping
     
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  6. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    KARIUS IS WORSE:emoticon-0102-bigsm
    The ****ing state of him in preseason... and klopp didn't exactly give mingolet a lot of chances compared to karius.
     
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  7. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Like a flock of pigeons
     
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    Danny ward?
     
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  9. Markthehorn

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    Well I think our defence will be suspect and give away a few goals like last season.

    The main worry was a lack of pace and goal threat but we have hopefully sorted that out with a couple of recent signings.
     
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  10. Tobes

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    I think he's the best you've got tbh, as Karius is ****e and Mignolet keeps making the same mistakes
     
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    On the little he had to do yesterday, Pickering looked good. Think you've possible got a bargain there given the market.
     
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  12. Tobes

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    Pickford didn't look bad either mate :)

    I said when we signed him, that the fee is large but he could be our keeper for 10 years plus. He had a cracking debut.
     
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    <laugh> must have changed it! I read it back too!!

    True test will be when he's a bit busier (as Ming was yesterday). But yeah, looked good as did Rooney in a deep role yesterday.
     
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    so would you with that lot in front of you <laugh>
     
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    Not really.
     
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    How can Moreno please you people?. He may need to score hat -trick and we win the game
     
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    No - he needs to defend. There were a handful of occasions yesterday, especially in the first half, when he was scampering off up the field hoping for an early pass when he should have been holding back to cover a defender under pressure. He and Can conspired to give away the throw that led to the second goal by trying to be too clever.
    He is a part of our all out attack philosophy, which I like for the most part, but taken to extremes can lead you to come unstuck.
    Let's see how he does in the next few games, but a couple of decent pre-season performances doesn't yet convince me that he's learned how to hold his runs until it's safe to go.
     
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  18. Thus Spake Zarathustra

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    90% right, but you're letting your (understandable) bias get the better of you if you're lumping Matip in the the same bracket as Lovren. There were times in that second half that Matip was dealing with every high ball on his own.

    But as to Windy - I didn't like heading the ball when I was a full back at schoolboy level: our sports teacher just blasted balls at me for weeks every lunch break, rain hail or shine, until I got over it. No matter what system you use for defending set pieces, you can not legislate for a professional footballer closing his eyes and flinching - cowardly and pathetic. And Firmino was not better for their first - the problem with zonal marking is that the attacker gets to pick who he's up against, and he was hardly likely to match up against Matip or Lovren when, if the cross was good enough, he could run against Bobby or Windy. Bobby didn't even jump - he flinched and gurned an action face circa Goal! in 1972. Lamentable.
     
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  19. Thus Spake Zarathustra

    Thus Spake Zarathustra GC Thread Terminator

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    I agree. He wasn't good yesterday, but TTA was woeful in that first half, and Lovren... well that was a good pass to Bobby for our third. Otherwise matip was on his own. Think we're missing the point that the two set pieces they scored from was mainly down to our midfielders being useless at defending them, headers especially. All three were ****ing hopeless yesterday, completely ****.
     
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  20. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    Sadly amen to that.

    Our defence has been ****e for years, we have just been lucky our attack is great.

    Can't always get away with it though(ie you score 2 we will get 3), which will be the dif between honours and not.
     
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