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Steven Toast said:
Honestly, it isn’t even about sides for me.

If the Republicans had a serious candidate, somebody like Kitzinger, Romney or Kemp, I don’t think I’d be bothered which side won. Republicans can run a decent fiscal set up and be straight shooters with foreign and domestic policy without being religious nutjobs or populist sycophants and in that case, I’d be happy with a Republican candidate winning if that’s what the USA voted for.

But for the sake of reality and what I fear will be a pretty large economic impact on the U.K., and the fact he’s a ****ing bullshitting, rapist, friend of Epstein ****er, I hope this is the end of Trump.

When the bubble burst in the USA, the U.K. was hit pretty hard. If he ****s the American economy as hard as he is planning to, we don’t have the safety net of the EU or a half decent economy to fall back on this time.
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On the other side of the coin what Harris proposes is not definitely going to improve things economically either. As they saying goes, when America sneezes the world catches a cold. With major problems in China as well on the economic front there could be rocky times ahead.
 
DMD said:
With the pigs ear they seem to have made of the election procedure, if it's open until the votes are counted, this thread could end up running for weeks.

It's like a banana republic.
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The fallout might be just as chaotic.
 
Off The Line said:
The fallout might be just as chaotic.
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My friend said this to me this morning, but I just don’t think it’ll be anything like as bad this time if he loses.

There just doesn’t seem to be the energy for Trump anymore outside of his base and even they seem to have dropped off a little.

I mean if they come out and say “they rigged it again”, then aren’t they just saying “the Democrats outsmarted us twice”? Not exactly the proudest moment and I don’t think the same lie twice is going to have much impact.

I don’t doubt that Elon will try some kind of shenanigans because he’s desperate to get more power, but I’m not sure people will buy it.
 
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Steven Toast said:
My friend said this to me this morning, but I just don’t think it’ll be anything like as bad this time if he loses.

There just doesn’t seem to be the energy for Trump anymore outside of his base and even they seem to have dropped off a little.
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I mean if they come out and say “they rigged it again”, then aren’t they just saying “the Democrats outsmarted us twice”? Not exactly the proudest moment and I don’t think the same lie twice is going to have much impact.

I don’t doubt that Elon will try some kind of shenanigans because he’s desperate to get more power, but I’m not sure people will buy it.
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The more numerous and more violent riots and fallouts tend to be when the Dems don't get their own way.
 
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Steven Toast said:
Honestly, it isn’t even about sides for me.

If the Republicans had a serious candidate, somebody like Kitzinger, Romney or Kemp, I don’t think I’d be bothered which side won. Republicans can run a decent fiscal set up and be straight shooters with foreign and domestic policy without being religious nutjobs or populist sycophants and in that case, I’d be happy with a Republican candidate winning if that’s what the USA voted for.

But for the sake of reality and what I fear will be a pretty large economic impact on the U.K., and the fact he’s a ****ing bullshitting, rapist, friend of Epstein ****er, I hope this is the end of Trump.

When the bubble burst in the USA, the U.K. was hit pretty hard. If he ****s the American economy as hard as he is planning to, we don’t have the safety net of the EU or a half decent economy to fall back on this time.
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It makes you wonder why the parties go forward with these candidates.
 
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DMD said:
The more numerous and more violent riots and fallouts tend to be when the Dems don't get their own way.
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And yet the largest and worst one, the one that will go down in history as one of the darkest moments in US history featured zero democrats and a lot of angry MAGA supporters being stochastically directed by a sitting US president.

I don’t recall that happening when George Floyd died.
 
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Steven Toast said:
And yet the largest and worst one, the one that will go down in history as one of the darkest moments in US history featured zero democrats and a lot of angry MAGA supporters being stochastically directed by a sitting US president.

I don’t recall that happening when George Floyd died.
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All of that is very debatable to say the least, with plenty of evidence to contradict it. .

I guess we'll just have to wait and see. I have zero intention of arguing about it.
 
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Steven Toast said:
And yet the largest and worst one, the one that will go down in history as one of the darkest moments in US history featured zero democrats and a lot of angry MAGA supporters being stochastically directed by a sitting US president.

I don’t recall that happening when George Floyd died.
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That has already been debunked they were Hull FC fans pretending to be MAGA supporters.
 
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Steven Toast said:
And yet the largest and worst one, the one that will go down in history as one of the darkest moments in US history featured zero democrats and a lot of angry MAGA supporters being stochastically directed by a sitting US president.

I don’t recall that happening when George Floyd died.
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Do you mean those people guided round by the Capitol Police?
 
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Tbh i do think the capitol thing was majorly overblown
Like this is usa, assault rifles are legally purchaseable
And there were no guns about

It was just protesters who got too rowdy
The crowd effect

Def not sone mega dark day
 
DMD said:
All of that is very debatable to say the least, with plenty of evidence to contradict it. .

I guess we'll just have to wait and see. I have zero intention of arguing about it.
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Plenty of evidence to contradict what? They disrupted the transfer of power, something that’s never happened in US history because their president told them to “fight like hell” or they won’t have a country anymore.

I would absolutely love to see evidence to the contrary because it’s been four years and I’ve not heard anything credible that shows a different set of events.
 
Steven Toast said:
Plenty of evidence to contradict what? They disrupted the transfer of power, something that’s never happened in US history because their president told them to “fight like hell” or they won’t have a country anymore.

I would absolutely love to see evidence to the contrary because it’s been four years and I’ve not heard anything credible that shows a different set of events.
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