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There are enough Americans involved in their elections to throw insults at without doing it to each other!
 
Depends on what you regard as far right. Some people regard anyone not as far left as Mao as far right.
We'll keep it contemporary and call it populism, Berlusconi and Trump can be called populist yet are fairly obnoxious characters, Farage is very similarly obnoxious, however populism can be more appealing under better leadership for example Meloni in Italy, and possibly Vance in America.
 
Looking at it all, I think whoever takes Pennsylvania takes the white house

If some of the final polling is indicative of shifts amongst certain demographics then there is a route to 270 for Harris without it, but I agree, that's the most likely scenario and it's likely to be turnout which decides it.
 
There was less conflict under Neville Chamberlin than Winston Churchill but I know who I'd rather have by my side in scrap.

That is a bit of a silly comparison really as it was Chamberlain who declared war on Germany not Churchill.
 
If some of the final polling is indicative of shifts amongst certain demographics then there is a route to 270 for Harris without it, but I agree, that's the most likely scenario and it's likely to be turnout which decides it.

From trump to win he has to take it imo and if he does, I have him at 271
 
We'll keep it contemporary and call it populism, Berlusconi and Trump can be called populist yet are fairly obnoxious characters, Farage is very similarly obnoxious, however populism can be more appealing under better leadership for example Meloni in Italy, and possibly Vance in America.

I haven’t checked, but how is Milei getting on in Argentina?
 
If some of the final polling is indicative of shifts amongst certain demographics then there is a route to 270 for Harris without it, but I agree, that's the most likely scenario and it's likely to be turnout which decides it.

4 percent of the Pennsylvania population is Puerto Rican or of PR descent and eligible to vote. Why the hell would you have a warm up act at Madison Square Garden last Sunday call Puerto Rico a “ floating island of garbage”? Thats 300,000 pissed off voters. If he loses PA and ultimately the presidency this will be one for the history books.
 
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We'll keep it contemporary and call it populism, Berlusconi and Trump can be called populist yet are fairly obnoxious characters, Farage is very similarly obnoxious, however populism can be more appealing under better leadership for example Meloni in Italy, and possibly Vance in America.

I agree. Berlusconi and Trump are crass. Their crassness won them a niche support base but eventually that bravado wears thin. They lack tact and are/were outsiders from politics. A person like JD Vance could inherit that populist base and make it more palpable to swing voters because he actually has tact, he chooses his words carefully (unlike Trump) and he knows how to play politics better than Trump.
 
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I agree. Berlusconi and Trump are crass. Their crassness won them a niche support base but eventually that bravado wears thin. They lack tact and are/were outsiders from politics. A person like JD Vance could inherit that populist base and make it more palpable to swing voters because he actually has tact, he chooses his words carefully (unlike Trump) and he knows how to play politics better than Trump.

I'm not sure Vance would win the next nomination, I think Ron Desantis could be the nomination in the next election
 
I haven’t checked, but how is Milei getting on in Argentina?

Poverty levels over 50%, ppl dying of treatable diseases that they would have survived 5 years ago, rubbish in the street and schools closed down, but fiscal deficit has reduced, dollars back in banks treasuries and inflation no longer triple digit... So conclusions are up to you to make.
 
I'm not sure Vance would win the next nomination, I think Ron Desantis could be the nomination in the next election

It depends. There’s a populist current in the Republican Party right now headed by Trump, Vance and others. There are others who don’t really like Trump but will back him anyway against the Democrats. Then there’s Republicans who are NeverTrumpers who would rather vote for Harris than him. A lot of them are neoconservatives who disagree with Trump mainly about foreign policy like Liz Cheney.

I think it will be between Vance and DeSantis.
 
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