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  1. ninian opinion

    ninian opinion Well-Known Member

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    This sums it up well.
    Will it though bring closure to the whole horribly sad saga?
    No as the club are suggesting an appeal and won’t be paying Nantes in the meantime.
     
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  2. Oldsparkey

    Oldsparkey Well-Known Member
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    If they don't appeal and also refuse to pay, they'll get an immediate 3 window transfer ban with more to follow.

    They have to appeal.
     
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    ninian opinion Well-Known Member

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    Appreciate that; my point was that it’ll drag on and on and assuming the appeal fails, then there’ll be law suits here there and everywhere by City trying to claw back the £15m.
     
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  4. BluefromBridgend

    BluefromBridgend Well-Known Member

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    I doubt the real guilty parties, McKay etc have any assets for City to sue for.

    It's a lot of cash but perhaps we should pay up to end that side of the very sorry episode?

    Question: If we pay the £5m are we also liable for the rest of the fee?
     
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  5. Oldsparkey

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    Sad as it may seem, I think that's the way it's going to be.

    There's a contingency built into the balance sheet (about £21M I think) if the case was lost, but that's only a paper exercise. It' good accounting practice and covers the club's financial position in a worse case scenario but the money would still have to be found from somewhere - Tan I presume?
     
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    Yes, the whole lot plus legal fees and expenses.
     
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    Agreed. Sadly we will still pursue every available avenue (like any business would) but it does nothing for the image of the club and still doesn't sit well morally (at least not with me).

    I note the comment in the statement around the club supporting the family, that will definitely get lost in the clamour to point fingers at the club again.
     
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    As fraught as the whole tragic episode has been for Emiliano's family, they will be not be lost on the financial implications of the decision.

    If he was a Cardiff player at the time of his death as the CAS has ruled, Sala's estate would be entitled to the signing on fee agreed. I believe it was in excess of £1M and was a stumbling block in the contract at the time as he wanted it paid directly to his mother which was against FIFA rules.
     
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    The club is not necessarily driving this.....insurance companies almost certainly involved and driving the issue. It may even be an insurance company of the agent or people involved with the plane who will be pulled in!
     
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    Bit of a odd situation this.

    How can a club persist with the stance that Sala was not a Cardiff player and then expect their insurance company to pay up when CAS says he was?
     
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    Well the insurance never pays up if you admit liability!!
     
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    Yeah. Just been reading that and was going to post it myself.
    It just gets worse for his poor family.
    A life needlessly lost.
     
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    Vetch is a bit slow getting onto this. I read it this morning. maybe the battery has failed on his caravan.
     
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    That was inevitable and frankly I don’t know why CCFC didn’t close the circle from the outset and just claim versus the insurers.

    I appreciate one has to attempt to mitigate ones losses, but even without hindsight CCFC were always going to lose the Tribunal case.
     
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    I suppose there was a dance to be done.

    If it was proven he wasnt a city player, there would be no valid claim against the insurers.
    Now there is.
    A painfully slow process though.
     
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    I wouldn't be surprised if the insurers will counterclaim negligence on City's part by not controlling his mode of transport from Nantes to UK.

    It would be difficult to argue against this.

    Again it will all be down to the small print.
     
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