Interesting stat, there are 83 guns per 100 Americans in the US FYI kennedy and MLK were killed by the state. A court ruled that the government\FBI were involved in MLKs murder. Howard E Hunt, a CIA employee, who was nabbed by police in Dallas dressed as a hobo when Kennedy was killed, made a deathbed confession a couple of years ago that got 0 media attention, he admitted it was CIA head Allen Dulles and VP Lindon Johnson and others who had Kennedy killed
misuse of drink and drugs can make you think all sorts of things, how many times have you woken up and said to yourself "what the hell was I thinking"? Imagine how bad those things might have been with guns at hand.
He specifically said he bet that this racist mass murderer was a cannabis user, so I'm wondering if he thinks cannabis somehow makes you racist or more violent, or out of control. Can't say I've ever woken up after smoking a spliff and thought "oh ****, what the hell was I thinking? Why did I carry out a racially motivated mass murder in a church"
Was the guy paranoid? he was certainly a complete nutcase, apparently his cousin spoke to the media in the US, the guy listened to lots fo white power music and 2 years before his rampage, some chick he digged started dating a black guy, which he obviouly wasn't happy about. The last massacre at that church was when the cops in the late 1900s accused one of the flock of corrupting folk with dreams of emancipation, they executed 30+ members of that same church, here we are 100+ years later and the same **** is happening. That country is supposed to be the light unto the world That's just the tip of the iceberg.
Also, during the Civil War it was burnt to the ground by the confederate armies, as black people were not allowed to congegate in the South, the confederate army built an ammo and gun storage facility just round the corner to keep an eye on it, to make sure black people didnt meet in secret. That army barracks is still there and is one of the biggest army training facilities in the South.
Lets not forget, this is NOT terrorism according to the tptb in the US and the media. That's only reserved for people with brown skin and Islamic religion, White christians cannot commit terrorist crimes.
Didnt realise that was his point about cannabis but this guy has got some serious psychological issues going on and if I had to bet one way then my money would be on him being a regular user.
Oh of course. When its a white guy, he is just a crazy lone wolf. Drugs did it! Its only when its a muslim that it is organised and a threat to national security
Not in itself. I have smoked cannibas ocassionally in the past until my industry (railways) brought in testing for d&a use 20 years ago. I do, however, subscibe to the point of view that you get nothing for nothing in this life when it comes to drugs and stimulents, including alcohol (main reason I stopped drinking five years ago). There is documented, proven evidence that chronic, habitual use of cannibas can lead to paranoia and depression, often treated with anti-depressents that will, in themselves, eventually lead to chronic dependence in order to feel 'normal'. Like any mood-altering chemistry, habitual use/dependence will trick the brain into stopping producing its own measures to make you feel secure - you'll ended up needing it just to not feel depressed, never mind happy. Such medical interventions can't be avoided in some people, sadly, but continuous, habitual use of any drug/chemical will trap humans in a cycle of dependency that, even if you step off uncontrolled for a matter of days, can lead to paranoid delusions and worse. So, while i don't suggest at all that recreational use of cannibas automatically makes you a 'racist mass murderer', I do believe evidence shows that if you are an habitual, drug dependent user of mind/mood altering substances that you are prone to such psychotic conditions. And Roof, surprise, surprise, has form for drug abuse and arrests - and i wrote the original prediction BEFORE this became news.
Hey, I'm not Peter Hitchens here, trying to start a bogus narrative to deflect from the underlying racism, right-wing, Fox News hegemony that underpins these motives. Far from it - I relate these, drug prevelance and other conditions as to reasons why it's so ****ing insane to allow citizens access to firearms. But habitual drug abuse and dependency, much like alcohol abuse and dependency in poor communities in the 19th century, is a blight that holds back many in our society and stores up problems for generations to come. I'm not an abolishoner of alcohol or drugs, by any means, but i refer way back in this original thread to my point about not feeling too smug about our 'superiority' over US society regarding race and political maturity, as i believe that given our own cultural 'norms' of drugs and alcohol that, if guns were freely available, we'd be no better, proportionally, than they are.
Nothing you say will make me believe that for a second. Their whole country was formed on the back of fear and paranoia. Pilgrims flocked from Europe to the New World to escape "persecution". The whole sale slaughter of the Native Americans, followed by hundreds of years shamelessly kidnapping hundreds of thousands of Africans and putting them to work as slaves. It is ingrained in their culture to such an extent. The constitution, the right to bear arms, its complete madness. If guns were freely available we would undoubtedly see a rise in gun crime, the same could be said of any country on the planet, but if our guns per capita were the same as the US, I doubt we would have a fraction of the proportionate gun crime they have over there. The right wing media over there create a fervourate climate of fear and hatemongering the like of which you will not believe. Their right wing make our right wing look like the Green Party.
whereas the british empire was built by nicely inviting the natives to join our peace loving commune that believed in everyone sharing the fruits of their labour. The kidnapping was mainly done by other africans, obviously there was no involvement by the british in that slave trade and of course those slaves are very different to the thousands of "illegals" working here in the sex trade, farming etc TODAY! So yes we are so much nicer than the americans and would therefore use our weapons in a much more peaceful than them.
It had nothing to do with cannabis whatsoever. The guy is obviously mental, mentally lacking, and extremely angry and racist, throw in a black guy dating the chick he liked and it spiralled. Dylann Roof, the 21-year-old white supremacist accused of murdering nine black churchgoers at an historic church in Charleston, South Carolina, was captured Thursday morning, ending an extensive 14-hour search by federal and local law enforcement. Roof’s arrest brings some relief to a city and country on edge, following yet another mass shooting. Roof’s Facebook page, which has been deleted, showed a photo of him dressed in a black jacket adorned with symbols of the racist white regimes that ruled Rhodesia and South Africa. Dalton Tyler, Roof’s roommate, told ABC News that Roof spoke of starting a civil war and that he advocated racial separatism. “He was big into segregation and other stuff. He said he wanted to start a civil war. He said he was going to do something like that and then kill himself,” Tyler said. Scott Roof, who identified himself as Dylann Roof’s cousin, told me over the telephone that “Dylann was normal until he started listening to that white power music stuff.” He also claimed that “he kind of went over the edge when a girl he liked starting dating a black guy two years back.” This scenario recalls a manifesto written by Elliot Rodger, who on May 23, 2014 gunned down six people in Isla Vista, California: “How could an inferior, ugly black boy be able to get a white girl and not me?” “Dylann liked her,” Scott Roof said. “The black guy got her. He changed. I don’t know if we would be here if not …” Roof then abruptly hung up the phone. The Wall Street Journal reported that Roof’s family had grown concerned over the last two months as his racist views started to boil over. “He apparently told people that he was involved in groups, racist groups,” said a woman who identified herself as the mother of Roof’s former stepmother. “He turned into a loner in the last couple of years and no one knew why. He just fell off the grid somehow.” Roof’s uncle Charles Cowles told Reuters that Roof’s father, Ben, gave the alleged killer a .45 caliber pistol for his birthday earlier this year. Police have not disclosed what sort of firearm was used in the shootings. Roof was captured four hours away from Charleston, in Shelby, North Carolina, after a local florist spotted his car on the highway and alerted authorities. Meanwhile, Mashable obtained a SnapChat video that was recorded just moments before Roof allegedly opened fire on his victims. The short clip shows a Bible study group sitting around a table. At the far end is a white male who resembles Roof. The video was taken by Tywanza Sanders, 26, a recent college graduate who was among the nine people killed Wednesday night. The city of Charleston has multiple vigils planned this evening to remember those who were gunned down. “If we stay silent,” South Carolina congressman Jim Clyburn told a memorial service yesterday, “they win.” “They must not win.” https://firstlook.org/theintercept/...ect-says-black-man-stole-roofs-love-interest/
Lets not forget Bahrain, that was a crown atrocity till the mid to late 1990s when they handed over the country to a brutal client Monarchy. Up till the handover an ex British copper was the Crown's man running the place, a guy who committed atrocities in Kenya for the Crown too. This guy ran the Bahrain secret police till the 90s, and is credited with many murders and disasapearances. He now works as head of the "secret police" for the Bahraini monarchy. Colonel Ian Henderson, dubbed the 'Butcher of Bahrain' carried out tortures and murders for 30 years working for the Crown. Women children you name it he killed raped and beat it. Europe is entirely responsible for the state of Africa. The low level of education, the majority without electricity and the rape and pillage of their countries by dictators who are backed by corporations and governments as long as the resources keep flowing. Liberia for example, has diamonds yet the abject poverty is immense in the country. Same for the middle east, same ****, same imperial adventurism, leaving a trail of death and destruction, but as long as the minerals and resources flow, and the war mahine can make billions, then it's all good. The added benefit of the middle east is, it can be used to scare people and take their civil liberties piece by piece.
Not sure I agree with your diagnosis but the odds are that he has a long term mental health issue (possibly several), now, we can't say if any of these were caused by cannabis use but one thing is for sure, it wont have helped.
Would not go that far Sisu. African countries have had some time to make their own responsibilities for their actions since. Yes Europe created an awful visa but 60 years on in some cases and the corruption and abuse is theirs. They have to take responsibility and we can excuse them of it on the basis of what we did 60 or 70 years previous. It's be like saying oh isreal . That's all germanys fault isn't it.
