Off Topic UK / EU Future

This is not a question to be decided by the EU Commission. It is decided by the demands of transport logistics and shipping companies. The ports of Rotterdam and Antwerp are much bigger than any of the French ports and can handle this within their present capacity.

 

I already have. They cannot take the chance of goods being held up in UK ports. This is why they have helped finance the direct southern routes from Ireland to France and Spain and now have agreed finance to expand the northern corridor.

 

Politicians in France from Macron down have a different opinion than you. They are livid that the Commission has bypassed the French ports and are trying to change the decision.

France's national debt is ballooning, it is currently vying with Spain on which EU country can reach the magic 100% debt /GDP ratio first. With unemployment rising again a lot of the present freight traffic from Ireland could be lost.

 

Why don't you want to deal with the known problems in the UK over transport and customs with border control I wonder? You cannot find a single report of the Government investing a penny into these systems, yet you complain about the EU getting on and doing something. You want the UK to be an isolated island, and now as others help you to achieve that dream, you complain.

 

Wrong again, I want the UK to be an extremely successful nation unshackled by the restrictions of trade currently afflicting us by being a member of the EU. None of us are in a position to gauge the preparedness of the UK government. It should have factored in the probability of a no deal from the start. That is the problem when too many 'remainers' are involved with the negotiations.

It appears the French have wasted their investment in ports destined to be bypassed. Not much hope for the 15% unemployed in Nord-Pas de Calais.

 

The role of the EU Commission is the upholding and admin. of existing treaties not the fixing of shipping lines. If a Reeder such as Maersk decides to avoid Hamburg and go to Bremerhaven instead then that is their decision. I think you will find that any decision made on this does not originate from the EU. commission, just that you want to be able to blame them for everything and, at the same time, take a joy in having a prod at France at every opportunity.

 

So how do you propose to get short shelf life products through clogged up ports? This has got nothing to do with the EU planning. We have been told that the planning goes as far as operation Brock. Even the MPs in Kent who were strongly for Brexit are now saying the whole county will come to a standstill. Your problem, so stop trying to get the blame passed onto others. You voted for it, now you must own it.

 

You have obviously missed the main point of the EU Commission handing out grants which could potentially run into billions of euros. The Commission ignored geographically closer to Ireland ports such as Roscoff and Cherbourg which means they miss out on extra funds to upgrade their facilities.

 

The problem will be for French and other EU producers. This will give a boost to UK farmers to increase demand of their produce. Thankfully the UK will soon be out of the wasteful CAP which discriminates severely against third world producers.

 

You should keep up. They have already had extra funding and are running additional sailings. The new funding is for the northern routes.

 

Marks and Spencer send millions of sandwiches everyday from Northampton to Paris via the tunnel. They have warned that any delay on the roads or at customs will make their business unworkable, with a loss of revenue for the company and the exchequer.

 

No, the routes have just been announced and funding will follow, that is why the French politicians are whinging about being left out. I thought you read French papers?

This might help.

President of Calais region furious over 'scandalous' move to cut out ...

Alternatively try listening to the French Transport Minister, Elizabeth Borne, she is fuming about missing out on the investment.

 

The point being that Antwerp and Rotterdam would not need to upgrade their facilities. It all depends on where the majority of Irish trade is going to SH. Antwerp and Rotterdam are closer to major centres of population than Cherbourg or Le Havre, and also have access to the Rhine. But I repeat that the EU. Commission is only responsible for the handing out of grants not the choosing of shipping lines.

 

What self respecting Frenchman would eat sandwiches from England Frenchie

 

Is this a joke?

The French may miss out on crappy white plastic bread so they will have to have a French baguette. Mon dieu!!!!!!

 

It seems they are very popular in the Paris area. Probably all the expats buying them.

 

The Commission choses which ports it pumps millions of euros in, of course it has a knock on commercial effect. I'm sure much of the current Irish exports head South.

 

Benidorm holiday had 'too many Spaniards': Blackburn grandma furious at 'disaster' trip Benidorm holiday had 'too many Spaniards': Blackburn grandma furious at 'disaster' trip A FUMING British OAP has hit out at a holiday company after claiming her Benidorm trip ...

C'mon Spain get your act together!!!!

 

It doesn't matter how you look at it, the EU is making plans to avoid trade grinding to a halt in the UK. It is the right thing to do, especially when you see that it is all part of an integrated transport route. Calais will still be the gateway for goods for the UK, and they have received plenty of funding from the UK for security measures. Meanwhile increased sailings between Dublin and Cherbourg have been announced, reducing the need for quite so many lorries to catch two ferries.

 

By choosing Antwerp or Rotterdam they don't have to pump any money anywhere SH. By handing out grants they are simply reacting to decisions made elsewhere. It also makes environmental sense because bigger ships (and therefore fewer) can be used - both Antwerp and Rotterdam can take ships of up to 16 metres draught and 15,000 TEU + capacity, currently only Le Havre can manage these.