Off Topic Trumpy pumpy.

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Milk and 1 other person said:
Here in the land "of the free". A 15 year old kid was arrested for refusing to say the pledge of allegiance in class.

Technically it was for "resisting arrest" but the whole thing spiralled out of control when he refused to say the pledge (something I refused to do for the few years of school I had in the US too).
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i was watching a show Saturday morning. sky sports mix and America's game super bowl.1990...

it was ny giants winning. not entirely interesting but I was struck by the guy says he was told our right he could say only two things if selected mvp.

1. going to Disneyland
2. i dedicate this win to our troops.

they were at first gulf war.

America is north Korea or China with more capitalism. thats all, ****ing brainwashing from early age.
 
jesus wept.

bernie the bird whisperer sander is running for president again.

thats the democrats ****ed then.

Trumps back in.

lets just face it.

Every liberal, goon and snowflake will be all over this guy and then they will say bernie or no-one and proceed to make the democratic nomination process poisonous.

the states who elected trump will run sacred and re-elect him.
 
Sanders won't win nomination. Field is too cluttered with the left fringe of the party. Too many Sanders wannabes, now Bernie himself. This can only help the more moderate members of the party running.

My money is on Cory Booker winning the nomination. Has appeal to both parties. With no real Republican primary, Republicans will be voting in the Democrat primary in the states that will let them.
 
Milk and 1 other person said:
Sanders won't win nomination. Field is too cluttered with the left fringe of the party. Too many Sanders wannabes, now Bernie himself. This can only help the more moderate members of the party running.

My money is on Cory Booker winning the nomination. Has appeal to both parties. With no real Republican primary, Republicans will be voting in the Democrat primary in the states that will let them.
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Never heard of that guy
 
moreinjuredthanowen said:
Never heard of that guy
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He's a left-centrist in US. (a moderate conservative in UK). Not very old but he's been around in politics for a long time. Mixed race like Obama, so he will get the minority vote. His moderate stance will get the independents and Republicans voting in the Democrat primary. He has one of the highest name recognition of anyone running too having been in politics a long time.

Women tend to coo over him so he'll get a percentage of the middle aged women with school-girl crush voters.

He's not as strict on guns as I would like but he's better than any of the Republicans I've heard considering challenging Trump... he's not a Bernie fringe runner And not as instantly unlikable as most of the others in the field.

I'm hoping he gets the nomination. The only thing that will keep him is if the party decide they have to lean hard left.

Most of the candidates running are on the left of the party so will steal votes from each other. Booker is mostly on his own on the more centrist side of the party.

Just like Trump won by being the only populist in a republican primary filled with more qualified but all similar old-style Republicans... Booker is going to win by being the moderate in a field full off soft socialists.
 
Milk and 1 other person said:
He's a left-centrist in US. (a moderate conservative in UK). Not very old but he's been around in politics for a long time. Mixed race like Obama, so he will get the minority vote. His moderate stance will get the independents and Republicans voting in the Democrat primary. He has one of the highest name recognition of anyone running too having been in politics a long time.

Women tend to coo over him so he'll get a percentage of the middle aged women with school-girl crush voters.

He's not as strict on guns as I would like but he's better than any of the Republicans I've heard considering challenging Trump... he's not a Bernie fringe runner And not as instantly unlikable as most of the others in the field.

I'm hoping he gets the nomination. The only thing that will keep him is if the party decide they have to lean hard left.

Most of the candidates running are on the left of the party so will steal votes from each other. Booker is mostly on his own on the more centrist side of the party.
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Sounds like John jameson or James Johnson from futurama
 
Asked about criticism of Labor Sec’y Acosta for his handling as US Attorney of Jeffrey Epstein’s sex abuse of underage girls, POTUS said “I really don’t know too much about it. I know he’s done a great job as labor secretary and that seems like a long time ago,”

Real American Men....apparently.... you know the ones that envision themselves as the cowboy, the revolutionary, at the Alamo....

The guys they want to sit should to shoulder in the mud with are.... *****philes and fat cowardly bastards.

If only this type was originally all the rage .... we'd still own America.......then voted to give it away tbf.
 
Michael Cohen to testify that Trump knew of WikiLeaks plot
Michael Cohen, President Trump’s former lawyer, will tell Congress on Wednesday that Trump knew his longtime adviser Roger Stone was communicating with WikiLeaks about publishing stolen emails from the Democratic National Committee, according to the text of his prepared opening statement.
In the prepared remarks, Cohen calls Trump a “racist,” a “conman” and a “cheat” and also levels accusations that the president personally signed a check to cover “hush money payments” to keep quiet an affair with adult-film actress Stormy Daniels. Cohen plans to testify that he previously lied to Congress about when Trump abandoned a business project in Moscow, although he will deny that Trump personally told him to lie.
A person familiar with the testimony said the document, which was first published by Politico, reflects what Cohen submitted as his prepared remarks, though they could change somewhat when he delivers them Wednesday to the House Oversight Committee.
Video: Michael Cohen to call President Trump a 'racist' and a 'conman' in prepared testimony (FOX News)
 
Mi Iras Limake Kuri said:
Sanders won't win nomination. Field is too cluttered with the left fringe of the party. Too many Sanders wannabes, now Bernie himself. This can only help the more moderate members of the party running.

My money is on Cory Booker winning the nomination. Has appeal to both parties. With no real Republican primary, Republicans will be voting in the Democrat primary in the states that will let them.
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It's true that Sanders has too many younger candidates to compete with now but the left is no longer fringe. The old right wing tropes about the "socialist menace" and "reds under the bed" no longer work as they used to. Many new voters weren't around during the cold war and they look not at Russia or Venezuela but at European Socialism. They see right wingers in the UK ranting about Socialism, then rushing their sick family members to the socialist-created NHS. They see middle class people in the US, who thought their insurance premiums covered them for important operations, then having to sell their houses when they found actually, they weren't covered (which is why some of them ended up voting for Trump.) Old fears from the McCarthy era are the new fringe.

The field will be cluttered but it'll be thinned out long before it matters. One candidate will emerge as the strongest to face Trump, though he may not even be the R candidate by the end of today. The moderates have the problem that Joe Biden is about to enter the race, who has the same problem Sanders has: too old and too old school.
 
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What I noticed in 2015 was that the democrat field thinned very very quickly and in effect b the first primaries it really was just clinton v sanders

However in the republican side the field was spread and it stays far too dilute for too long for anyone but trump and his headline grabbing methods to gain traction.

You had 8 to 10 or 12? candidates in debates where trump could just barack insult and call them names like one guy was little ted wasn't he etc etc. Trump had all but seized the nomination by the time lads like jeb bush finally realised they should be long out of it.

The danger with a huge field is the one who emerges is the one that stands out (for not really the right reasons) where as the more steady hand, more experienced or plain more ethical candidate might not be heard and be missed

They really ought to set themselves higher standards than the field thats declared thus far:
you might consider this article a terrible source but its actually half decent https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/2020-democrat-candidates-771735/

Many have not declared and probably won't like biden

theres a lot of younger, and by extension haven't done much types... and a lot of older hated types.

It'll be interesting to see which one emerges.

I am 100% sure right now theres a HUGE activist base for sanders.
 
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