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Match Day Thread Tracking Change at LFC

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by moreinjuredthanowen, Jun 6, 2015.

  1. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    It comes down to if you're a good enough player, you'll get the right move. I think there's probably as many agents who've held players careers back, as have advanced them. The other side is, there's players like Falcao who seem happy enough to not advance their career as long as they're getting paid huge amounts.
     
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  2. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    I hear what you're saying but from a players perspective at some point common sense would kick in if it was obvious they were missing out by having an incompetent advisor.
     
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  3. Diego

    Diego Lone Ranger

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    Not all agents either apparently <ok>
     
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  4. Diego

    Diego Lone Ranger

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    I think parents/family have one thing over agents, they will strive to make sure their relative is happy as well as paid fairly.
     
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  5. Lucaaas

    Lucaaas Well-Known Member

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    True #peterodemwingie

    You've got to admit though the most likely circumstance of getting an agent instead of a parent to take charge of your dealings will result in better career prospects and the possibility of squeezing that little bit more money out of clubs. And it dramatically reduces your chances of signing a **** deal.
     
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  6. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid Forum Moderator

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    Ronaldinho's brother is his agent.

    Isnt messi in some dodgy tax scandal with his dad... Maybe not worked out so well <laugh>
     
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  7. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    Messi wouldn't agree <whistle>
     
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  8. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    Tax avoidance or whatever is a money issue not a career issue.
     
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  9. Lucaaas

    Lucaaas Well-Known Member

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    Notable players using family members
    Lionel Messi, Sergio Ramos, David Alaba, Fernandinho, Arjen Robben, Claudio Marchisio, Ilkay Gundogan, Neymar (dad), Juan Mata (dad), Francesco Totti (qualified), Eden Hazard (no agent)

    I found this list. Few good players in there. But lets remember the argument isn't that you can't be a top player without an agent, its that you leave yourself at a disadvantage early in your career when it comes to contract discussions if you have someone who isn't 100% clued up on business deals negotiating your deals.
     
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  10. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    You can but it's like this. You better have the brains to seek professional advice and I'm fully sure Mr hazard didn't sign anything before it was read over by professional.

    Like I said keane used a solicitor... if you have a parent, a solicitor and an accountant engaged you can I'm sure get by fine without aidy ward.
     
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  11. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid Forum Moderator

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    Gary Mac signed up according to Carragher.
     
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  12. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    I don't have a massive problem with agents - they're a necessary evil. The key is to build good relationships with these agents so you can increase your chances of getting their clients. Chelsea are brilliant at this and have great links with Jorge Mendes.

    Nice to see Ibe being represented by family - I just hope the club don't take advantage.
     
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  13. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    Didn't see it reported in the papers but Mario cut short his bereavement leave (his father passed away) to come back to the club and train.

    #PoorAttitude
    #lazy
     
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  14. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Poor fella knows more about being a man and getting on with it than sterling ever will.
     
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    Johnson and Sterling need updating <whistle>
     
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  17. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Johnson says released. He was.

    Just cos someone took in a stray doesn't mean it's anything to do with us.
     
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  18. Enricky.

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    Stoke signing Johnson is karma for them
    Beating us 6-1 <whistle>
     
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  19. Diego

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    Yep, could now be 6-0 on the first day of the season :grin:
     
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  20. RogerisontheHunt

    RogerisontheHunt Well-Known Member

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    Had to laugh at this

    Potters boss Mark Hughes said of the England international: "He will be a fantastic addition. He's a talented defender who also chips in with goals."

    Defender :emoticon-0102-bigsm

    Goals <laugh> 8 in 160 games, last one November 2014
     
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