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Not really, as far as I’m concerned it’s an insurance not a savings account. If I need it and can’t afford treatment then it’s there, if I don’t need it then brilliant.

I also pay taxes for keeping the country safe, I don’t expect to be buried alongside a Eurofighter Typhoon and a Police attack dog.


That would be some ****ing funeral though <bubbly><ok>

“Put him over there next to the jet fighter. He can share a headstone with the dog”.
 
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I wasn't being patronising.

If you can afford to pay for yourself then that's great and I agree that others shouldn't fund you. What I object to is the government hoovering up people's leftover cash that has already been taxed multiple times while it was earned. Tax in life is fine as we all have to pay our share to keep the country afloat but why tax someone for dying? Seems harsh.

What's the justification for it? You paid tax all your life, you funded yourself all your life, you funded your way towards death and when you croak the government takes a large portion of what you didn't have the time or inclination to spend.

I'd rather my kids had it than the government wasted it. I'll have contributed my fair share (and taken out less than my fair share) to the infrastructure of the country by the time I'm worm food.

I only speak for myself and I don’t judge other’s for wanting to do it their way. Hopefully my kids won’t be in a position where they need to rely on me being dead to have a nice life.
 
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That would be some ****ing funeral though <bubbly><ok>

“Put him over there next to the jet fighter. He can share a headstone with the dog”.

I’d write a letter to the gov’t claiming I’d paid my taxes so I am therefore entitled to be ejected from 30,000 ft out of a fighter jet. Please be so kind as to bury me in the salvaged wreckage of said jet with the dog it collided with on impact.
 
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Interesting reading this thread. One of the problems i see is the UK itself, although i have no evidence to base it on without further research, I believe we are one of the worst for looking after our elderly. By that i mean within immediate family. We seem to want to cart our parents off to care homes as soon has they start losing their faculties. I give Italy as way of example, that appear to care more for their parents, than we do. http://www.cliccamuseo.org/who-takes-care-of-the-elderly-in-italy/

We seem to base everything around money, than actually caring for our loved ones ie but what about my inheritance!?

Then we take the next route, the suggestions we put people out of their misery, and although i do try to understand that in part, how do we ensure that is the sacred choice of the individual themselves, and not one made by the family to lesson the burden and inconvenience on them.

Just a few words and thoughts on a very complex topic.
 
Interesting reading this thread. One of the problems i see is the UK itself, although i have no evidence to base it on without further research, I believe we are one of the worst for looking after our elderly. By that i mean within immediate family. We seem to want to cart our parents off to care homes as soon has they start losing their faculties. I give Italy as way of example, that appear to care more for their parents, than we do. http://www.cliccamuseo.org/who-takes-care-of-the-elderly-in-italy/

We seem to base everything around money, than actually caring for our loved ones ie but what about my inheritance!?

Then we take the next route, the suggestions we put people out of their misery, and although i do try to understand that in part, how do we ensure that is the sacred choice of the individual themselves, and not one made by the family to lesson the burden and inconvenience on them.

Just a few words and thoughts on a very complex topic.

Some people even think old folk shouldn’t get a vote.
 
I only speak for myself and I don’t judge other’s for wanting to do it their way. Hopefully my kids won’t be in a position where they need to rely on me being dead to have a nice life.
Fair enough, I think our kids will need our help to have a comparable life to ours simply because the cost of living has only gone in one direction over the past few decades.
 
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I wasn't being patronising.

If you can afford to pay for yourself then that's great and I agree that others shouldn't fund you if you can afford it. What I object to is the government hoovering up people's leftover cash that has already been taxed multiple times while it was earned. Tax in life is fine as we all have to pay our share to keep the country afloat but why tax someone for dying? Seems harsh.

What's the justification for it? You paid tax all your life, you funded yourself all your life, you funded your way towards death and when you croak the government takes a large portion of what you didn't have the time or inclination to spend.

I'd rather my kids had it than the government wasted it. I'll have contributed my fair share (and taken out less than my fair share) to the infrastructure of the country by the time I'm worm food.


Yeah, this.
 
Interesting reading this thread. One of the problems i see is the UK itself, although i have no evidence to base it on without further research, I believe we are one of the worst for looking after our elderly. By that i mean within immediate family. We seem to want to cart our parents off to care homes as soon has they start losing their faculties. I give Italy as way of example, that appear to care more for their parents, than we do. http://www.cliccamuseo.org/who-takes-care-of-the-elderly-in-italy/

We seem to base everything around money, than actually caring for our loved ones ie but what about my inheritance!?

Then we take the next route, the suggestions we put people out of their misery, and although i do try to understand that in part, how do we ensure that is the sacred choice of the individual themselves, and not one made by the family to lesson the burden and inconvenience on them.

Just a few words and thoughts on a very complex topic.

That's why it should be the person croaking making the decision unless they had put a consent in before they got paralysis or alzheimers.

If they have then been bullied into it by their family then I'm sorry but they need to be stronger and cut their family out if their kids are such ****s
 
Cant you just gift everything to your child as long as you dont croak it within the 7 years?

That is if someone dies I think. If your Granddad dies and leaves everything to one of your parents they can say they don't want it and give it to you and if they don't die in 7 years then the money isn't subject to inheritance tax.

It's one thing I've never understood when the rich families moan about it as surely you could keep doing this forever and as long as the initial person receiving it doesn't die within the time frame then they would never pay the tax? (I'm probably missing something obvious)
 
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Late to the party....

It’s disgusting that it’s so difficult/illegal to end life for someone suffering. This country is far too conservative (small c) in many ways.
 
Cant you just gift everything to your child as long as you dont croak it within the 7 years?


No idea, I haven't personally given it much thought until today.

As previously said (for the benefit of ****wits like BBF) I'm not sat here waiting for my folks to die so I can spend some cash.

I do object to the fact that government is though.
 
That is if someone dies I think. If your Granddad dies and leaves everything to one of your parents they can say they don't want it and give it to you and if they don't die in 7 years then the money isn't subject to inheritance tax.

It's one thing I've never understood when the rich families moan about it as surely you could keep doing this forever and as long as the initial person receiving it doesn't die within the time frame then they would never pay the tax? (I'm probably missing something obvious)

You need to trust your family like you enough and don't **** you off after they have taken everything <laugh>
 
Fair enough, I think our kids will need our help to have a comparable life to ours simply because the cost of living has only gone in one direction over the past few decades.

That’s a fair point mate, and if they’re struggling to live a decent life then I’ll probably make the necessary decisions but I don’t plan for that to be the case.
 
You need to trust your family like you enough and don't **** you off after they have taken everything <laugh>

Well yeah the obvious way it would end is if their isn't someone to defer it to. Whether that be that you don't trust the kid/relative or there isn't one. But if there always was someone to pass it to is there anything stopping a family doing this? Seems a bit stupid if grandparent dies, leaves it all to their kid, pays tax, who then dies and leaves it to their kid, who pays tax etc. Can just at least skip a generation and one round of tax
 
I told my mum and dad ages ago that I’ll be annoyed if there’s a penny left when they go; apart from the house, and if we have to sell that to pay for their care, so be it.

Inherited wealth is a pretty **** concept imo. My son will make his own way in the world, like I did and like his grandparents did, and be a better person for it.
Amazing post <applause>
 
That’s a fair point mate, and if they’re struggling to live a decent life then I’ll probably make the necessary decisions but I don’t plan for that to be the case.
I'm mainly thinking home ownership. It's a bit of a British obsession but what used to be an expectation is fast becoming a luxury depending on which part of the country you live in. If my kids want to stay in the South where they grew up then they will probably need our help. They could always just come and live with me in Portugal.
 
I do not intend to live my life on the basis of what will be left for my kids. They are, of course, welcome to what I do leave when I’m gone.

Quite honestly I’d rather my own family benefited from my money than have some useless Gvt take it and spunk it up the wall, as they do with so much of taxpayers money.
 
I knew that’d be your response, only a small portion of recovered corporation tax blah blah blah, one company leaves the UK and makes 5,000 folk redundant to hedge it’s losses and you’re no better off.

Ah the old, 'we'll up sticks and move abroad if you try and tax us' line. Well they are doing that because of Brexit anyway.