£80m more every year over the last 5 years. If you don't think that makes a difference take away their biggest signing every season.
The way forward for THFC ??
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I've never said that. What's embarrassing is thinking that being able to sign an additional £80m player every year makes no difference.
You're talking about them rebuilding intelligently, though.
If they'd have done that then they'd still be challenging for the title.
They're not. They're losing to **** teams and sitting in 8th.
They finished above us once from 2009 to 2018.
Klopp's done a great job of raising their level back to winning the title.
They've absolutely gone off a cliff since that, though.
We've become a defensive, unstable shambles. They should be miles ahead of us.
This is about re builds more than the money aspect…hence why I didn’t churn out a load of prices and costs
In one season Newcastle have moved above us and are blatantly having a rebuild at modest prices. How much more money have we made over them in recent years?
They've had a net spend of £171m this season and over £100m last season.
Those aren't modest prices. They spent £25m on Chris Wood and binned him off to Forest.
I believe they are in the midst of the process…the bit which requires patience from the fanbase. I’m up for that stage at Spurs too…but I need to know it’s part of the strategy and not just us trickling along.
They haven’t gone full Levy and sacked the manager so that it looks like it’s all his fault
Lots. And they have done better than us this season. As have Arsenal. But by your favourite measure, trophies, it's likely both will do the same as us. I look at the medium term and at league position not trophies. The only club who are significantly better than us on that measure are Man City.
Klopp didn't start talking up other jobs and saying he might leave if they beat us.
They're not in the middle of a process, either. Their whole midfield needs replacing.
They didn't plan for the end of the Salah/Mane/Firmino trio properly.
They burned out their wingbacks and bought a series of crocked centre-halves.
Their fans are happy with Klopp, but largely unhappy with the owners.
And I'm not trying to. We're not financially kings though, either.
We've been consistently out earned and outspent by at least 5 other sides.
Now Newcastle have jumped on the oil/beheading cash, too.
You also have the dubiousness of PL refs being offered big money for Saudi games.
Compared to most teams in the league, we're very rich.
We're just not as rich as the ones we're consistently competing with at the top.
The disgusting treatment handed out to Sanchez from our alleged fans on social media and in the stadium recently has been totally unnecessary and counter productive. If they continue on that path, also to Porro recently , it will do nothing to improve things. People mention Porro’s mistakes in defence (not always his fault)but do not mention Kane’s failure to score from some of his excellent crosses, We could have home and dry in a few recent games , but Porro becomes the one to blame.It is just wrong
The weird thing is that the scatter on our league positions is lower than anyone else's apart from Man City. So objectively we are more consistent and our rebuilds have lost less ground than our rivals. But somehow people still think that we are doing things badly.
Our performance deficit against City is fully explained by the difference in income. Against everyone else there is no performance deficit over the last few years.
Our performance deficit against City is fully explained by the difference in income. Against everyone else there is no performance deficit over the last few years.
Yep. The club's motto is Audere est Facere but any defender who takes a risk which leads to a goal conceded gets pilloried. The reason Sanchez is our fifth choice centre back is because he is worse than the others. It's perfectly normal that he makes more mistakes
Defenders taking risks is just stupid though.
What Porro done on the weekend for instance was extremely dumb and naive.
It is concerning that Porro only seems to play as we hope he will with Romero backing him up
Put Sanchez or Tanganga behind him, he turns into Paul Stalteri
I won’t take any Stalteri slander on this board, he was an underrated baller and holder of one of our most iconic goals in recent history! He in all seriousness probably would’ve been an improvement on our RBs from the last 3-4 years too.
My initial post didn’t mention any figures because that wasn’t the point
it was discussing the fact that there seems to be a solid structure in the 2 examples I used as oppose to us and one has outwitted us and the other seems likely to in the near future.
I used Liverpool because they were on a par with us in 2015…however after that they left us behind on the pitch
I used Newcastle as my 2nd example…a team fighting relegation year in year out…yet they sit above us and it seems clear that they also have a solid plan
They’ve both spent money but they’re no City or Chelsea and none of us expect us to spend money of that sort.
This is about leadership and structure
It’s ok picking out the odd dud, like we all sign, to prove a point but the point is irrelevant.
We’ve been crying out for a CB…some including myself had mentioned Dunk in the past, we were also linked with Botman. A structure supported from the top allowed Howe to strengthen key areas with who he wanted and they didn’t cost the Earth. Levy thinks he’s smart..get the big manager…but he couldn’t back big manager with big signings…not enough for the job ahead.
It’s all because there is no structure and the man at the top has no idea of creating one.
That was the point of my initial post but the blind followers started to feel sorry for us and painting a picture of poverty
what a waste of time
it was discussing the fact that there seems to be a solid structure in the 2 examples I used as oppose to us and one has outwitted us and the other seems likely to in the near future.
I used Liverpool because they were on a par with us in 2015…however after that they left us behind on the pitch
I used Newcastle as my 2nd example…a team fighting relegation year in year out…yet they sit above us and it seems clear that they also have a solid plan
They’ve both spent money but they’re no City or Chelsea and none of us expect us to spend money of that sort.
This is about leadership and structure
It’s ok picking out the odd dud, like we all sign, to prove a point but the point is irrelevant.
We’ve been crying out for a CB…some including myself had mentioned Dunk in the past, we were also linked with Botman. A structure supported from the top allowed Howe to strengthen key areas with who he wanted and they didn’t cost the Earth. Levy thinks he’s smart..get the big manager…but he couldn’t back big manager with big signings…not enough for the job ahead.
It’s all because there is no structure and the man at the top has no idea of creating one.
That was the point of my initial post but the blind followers started to feel sorry for us and painting a picture of poverty
what a waste of time
It’s criminal he only has one England cap whilst Dier, Maguire, Mings etc all get regular call ups.
Since your claim that Liverpool are doing better than us is wrong then the rest of your argument falls. So you've wasted your own time and everyone else's