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No. He started off by putting a company into admin and then buying all the assets back for peanuts, but he's not done anything else that I'm aware of, he's built his empire on selling loads of diesel engines..
And property
I was just responding to the earlier post from Imperial saying that Obi had said the buyer was lined up if they got the freehold

...I don’t actually know anything you know!
Now I know you know you know...
 
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We stuck with them till the end of next season whatever happens.
It's clear they hate the embarrassment caused by the 'cavemen' & 'hooligans' so we know they have a weak spot.
So during that entire time they should be treated with the same disdain and hatred they have for supporters.

I do agree that they will ultimately choose when they leave on the current trajectory.

Re the “caveman” tactics, is it worth getting a criminal record over their ownership?

MoH
 
Maybe I’ve misremembered the timeframes, but I couldn’t understand that if there was a buyer lined up so quickly why that buyer didn’t just look to get the club from the start by speaking to the Council about the freehold (of course that might have stopped them anyway, but why wait and have to give the Alllams a slice?)

It is possible that he didn't realise what a major a **** up he had made until he was too far in, only at that point would he need to look for a way to get his money back. He spent the first period of his ownership crying like a bitch about what a strain it was on his (and his wifes) family fortune, as he later admitted.
 
My view on Ming is similar to Voltaire’s quote
“Think for yourselves, and allow others the privilege to do so, too.” (and no, he didn’t say the one about defending to the death people’s right to express views he disagreed with)
I don’t agree with his original position on how important knitwear was, but he has posted some interesting posts and it’s at least keeping the debate going

He has done exactly what you accused Ben of though, referring to others as ‘cavemen’ because he disagrees with their view

I think we all realise that you’ll get extreme views on here, but that’s often the fun of it. People will argue with each other, but nothing to get excited about...it’s not real life (these discussions over a pint would be much more conciliatory on everyone’s part...but not as much fun written down!)

I am interested in which part of Harlem he’s from though

Alllams Out

Aye, on just about everthing, as I made it clear I didn't agree with everything. I don' think (would need to look back and...) It seemed more innocuous and less personal, just a general expression.
 
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You don't take gifts back. It's fundamentally immoral.


"Indian giver" is an American expression, used to describe a person who gives a "gift" and later wants it back, or who expects something of equivalent worth in return for the item. [1] It is based on cultural misunderstandings that took place between early European explorers (like Lewis and Clark)[2] and the Indigenous people with whom they traded. Often the Europeans would view an exchange of items as gifting, believing they owed nothing in return to the Natives who were generous with them, while the Indigenous people saw the exchange as a form of trade or equal exchange, so had differing expectations of their guests. [2]
The phrase is still in colloquial use to describe a negative act or shady business dealings
 
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Many are labouring under the misapprehension that HullCityActionForChange are leading all the protests and are able to control what is and isn't going to happen and that's simply not the case.

Perhaps quite a few, as that is what I have picked up off here - rightly or wrongly. It's definitely not a mischievous take on things. Communication, what a bugger that is, hey...
 
Maybe I’ve misremembered the timeframes, but I couldn’t understand that if there was a buyer lined up so quickly why that buyer didn’t just look to get the club from the start by speaking to the Council about the freehold (of course that might have stopped them anyway, but why wait and have to give the Alllams a slice?)

The potential buyer offered two prices for Hull City and the SMC. One with the freehold and one without. The price without the freehold was less, fairly substantially less, than the debts the Allams paid off. If they had sold without the freehold they would have been millions of pounds out of pocket. The price with the freehold would have netted them a huge profit.

OLM received an e-mail as part of the CTWD committee suggesting the Allams had two potential sales that fell through because they didn't have the freehold.

You pays your money and you take your choice. I'm convinced he had a sale lined up when he bought the club, all he needed was the freehold.
 
Maybe I’ve misremembered the timeframes, but I couldn’t understand that if there was a buyer lined up so quickly why that buyer didn’t just look to get the club from the start by speaking to the Council about the freehold (of course that might have stopped them anyway, but why wait and have to give the Alllams a slice?)
Maybe it was someone who knew the Council wouldn’t deal with. Allam is arrogant enough to reckon he can do a deal that others can’t.

I also know nothing btw - pure speculation!
 
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