EU will be begging us for a deal when we do a hard Brexit give them 6 months and Junker will be wetting himself for a deal
EU CANNOT AFFORD US TO LEAVE PS ARE YOU RELATED TO THE kINNOCKS
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EU CANNOT AFFORD US TO LEAVE PS ARE YOU RELATED TO THE kINNOCKS
National poverty? How much? Would love to learn how much poverty we would be in by leaving. But I doubt you could explain.
By making it wear a funny hat and calling itself Marjorie. How do you think? By making them subject to EU regulations that membership currently allows them to avoid, the lack of mutual recognition of certain qualifications, more complicated tax and social service payment systems, differing trade restriction rules, lack of freedom of movement rights.
Let me try to make it simple for you. The UK gets most of its net earnings from the financial sector. That sector works because it can act as a channel for the massive trade flowing to/from the EU. The volume of UK-only trade is relatively small. Large numbers of people working in this area, and the companies they work for, are relocating OUT of the UK into Paris and Frankfurt.
So if your biggest source of income stops flowing in....
Fill in the rest.
I was always warned that talk about religion or politics will generally lead to major disagreements. Sadly it's been proven correct ... again ... and no drink involved this time ... maybe. I am a firm believer in leaving, but like to think I argue respectfully and provide facts to support my position.
Agree with Woody. Saturday night on the booze ...too much booze. My Apologies Norton for the angry pissed response.
Dutch have tried to lure 3 companies with lucrative deals to the Netherlands all have failed, im reading on German news that the personnel are refusing to go to Frankfurt, before jumping to assumptions check the facts first please
**** me sideways - is this still going on? The short answer to it is that no-one really knows, but anyone who says trade is going to stop or every multinational business is going to leave the UK or we're going to replace EU trade by signing a trade agreement with Chile is talking bollocks. It's a change and it will take time to sort itself out, but life and trade and everything else WILL sort itself out because it has to, whatever the emotional state of those involved. We are too big to be dumped for political reasons and trade with the EU is too important for us to play silly buggers. Ergo, there will be a deal and life will go on. The picture for us after leaving will improve as time goes by and we should recover any economic losses in a year or two. Thereafter it's no relentless federalism from the EU Commission, no burgeoning regulations strangling any form of free enterprise and no being tied to the economic problems of the Eurozone bloc.
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Agree Sid , we will have what we will have and we will take it and be ok , so long as we get together from top to bottom as a country .
It’s got to the stage where its less brexit future I’m worried about , to the concern of the NHS , cuts to services , the ever increasing crime and how the lack of deterrent is bringing more and more into criminality etc etc
Agree Sid , we will have what we will have and we will take it and be ok , so long as we get together from top to bottom as a country .
It’s got to the stage where its less brexit future I’m worried about , to the concern of the NHS , cuts to services , the ever increasing crime and how the lack of deterrent is bringing more and more into criminality etc etc
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-b...ting-in-germany-ahead-of-brexit-idUKKCN1IP1FV
https://www.vox.com/world/2019/1/23/18194235/brexit-no-deal-sony-dyson-economy
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...e-operations-abroad-no-deal-brexit-iod-survey
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/04/lon...ankfurt-due-to-brexit-finance-group-says.html
https://readyforbrexit.co.uk/the-list-of-companies-leaving-the-uk-because-of-brexit-grows/
sorry for being lazy, but posting a few links is a lot faster thane typing a long list
My opinion (again) is that you [the U.K.] should stop talking about brexit and start talking about statehood!
The first link is really vague and doesn't actually list any companies leaving.
The second link actually states that Dyson sending his executives to Singapore isn't related to Brexit and no UK jobs will be lost.
The third link is again really vague and just talks about companies planning to leave and mainly in a no deal scenario.
The fourth link is a German finance group making a prediction.
The fifth link is a few Japanese companies that are reported to be moving from the UK to the EU. The rest are looking at potentially moving.
Not really that much happening in the grand scheme of things. There's also investment coming into the UK, too.
I am glad I read that I was just about to write the same reply another thing there was also another 1768 companies moved from somewhere else to Germany have they had a brexit vote or is it just companies moving as normal?
I wonder if on this point you may be over-simplifying the situation, just a tad.
The financial organisations that either have or will 'move to Europe' are mostly remaining in The UK.
But they will be moving their HO to Europe along with some of it's functions. This is a legal requirement.
But the 'ownership' stays the same. UK based.
Much of the expertise will remain UK based.
Much of the profits earned will be exported back to UK, one way or another.
Lloyds of London will still be insuring the World and it has no plans to become Lloyds of Luxemburg.
However, there seems to be some scepticism, up in the stratosphere of the highest finance, that the European competitors from Frankfurt and Paris have the expertise to successfully take up this business, and it's ironic that it's European Big Business that is most worried about that (this is according to an interesting article that I read in the finance pages of a Pro-Leave paper, so some scepticism is permitted).
This is all such a gray area that no one KNOWS just how it will pan out.
Experience of life tells me that it won't be as bad as some fear or as good as some hope.