Off Topic The Politics Thread

[ELLERS]

Maybe someone bought it as a present for her, maybe she won it in a competition, maybe a friend gave it to her, maybe she saved and saved and saved to purchase it etc. **** me you are so judgemental, what did you say the other day, let's wait until the facts came in before judging and yet you do the exact opposite. Cmon you can do better

fair point.

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

eer yes. We don't have to worry about any EU red tape for a start.
Even the CBI are being positive!
Dame Carolyn Fairbairn, CBI director general, said: "The signing of the UK's first independent trade agreement is a milestone for our economy and will be welcomed by businesses in many sectors.

"This deal has the potential to support jobs across the country through lifting British farming exports and supporting our manufacturing and services sectors. Consumers will also benefit through greater choice."
However I am sure there will be a few negative voices who want us to fail.

Embarrassing.

 

[BobbyD]

unless the family is living in a slum house with no wallpapers and bunkbeds with only broken toys that they cannot sell off then they don't deserve any food.

people never ever spend then suddenly lose their jobs.

 

[ELLERS]

Embarrassing.

Ah bless 'Negative Nelly' doesn't like the positive news? Rather than bring a downer on everything Watford, take this opportunity and embrace this good news. More trade means more money for things.

 

[ELLERS]

unless the family is living in a slum house with no wallpapers and bunkbeds with only broken toys that they cannot sell off then they don't deserve any food.

people never ever spend then suddenly lose their jobs.

I don't know... I have seen a few people on benefits playing the system, living like kings while people like me have struggled over the years but gone out and worked.

 

[qprbeth]

And Labour in the past... What about old Jezza and his Champagne Commies? Hypocrites. It's like all those anti-capitalist freaks who moan about capitalism while wearing designer trainers?

What about John Perfumo and his liasons
What about Lloyd George and his insider dealing
What about Peter Jay and James Callaghan

Corbyn has gone...as has Perfumo, Lloyd George and Jim Callaghan.

Please keep it in the present

 

[BobbyD]

I don't know... I have seen a few people on benefits playing the system, living like kings while people like me have struggled over the years but gone out and worked.

yeah, certainly them around and i'd stick them on an island somewhere for cheating the system.

Still i don't understand why you needed to put that example out there to defend a policy. I'm all for the UBI and capping of benefits that the tories have put in (although the implementation of it left a lot to be desired) but in this instance there really isn't a positive argument

 

[Willhoops]

I don't know... I have seen a few people on benefits playing the system, living like kings while people like me have struggled over the years but gone out and worked.

anecdotal, struck under Ellers ruling

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

Ah bless 'Negative Nelly' doesn't like the positive news? Rather than bring a downer on everything Watford, take this opportunity and embrace this good news. More trade means more money for things.

Some tangible positive news rather than jingoistic tub-thumping and I will. It’s not in any way more trade unless there’s some tangible improvement on what we had before unless you want the win of the currency crashing and Japanese people having greater ability to buy up our exports. Coming up with “EU red tape” given the obstacles to trade created by Brexit is just moronic.

 

[qprbeth]

I don't know... I have seen a few people on benefits playing the system, living like kings while people like me have struggled over the years but gone out and worked.

And I have seen a number of high income people scamming every last penny out of the system.

I have also worked with people in the hospital with cleaners and porters who work two full job everyday as does their wife to keep their rent paid and food on the table, never claiming benefits (until I suspect now, when their cleaning jobs have disappeared or been cut)

 

[ELLERS]

What about John Perfumo and his liasons
What about Lloyd George and his insider dealing
What about Peter Jay and James Callaghan

Corbyn has gone...as has Perfumo, Lloyd George and Jim Callaghan.

Please keep it in the present

eer Beth with all due respect Corbyn is a serving MP if you hadn't noticed?

 

[ELLERS]

And I have seen a number of high income people scamming every last penny out of the system.

I have also worked with people in the hospital with cleaners and porters who work two full job everyday as does their wife to keep their rent paid and food on the table, never claiming benefits (until I suspect now, when their cleaning jobs have disappeared or been cut)

I remember my Mum and Dad having two jobs and us kids sharing the bikes/baths/clothes and just about everything else.

 

[ELLERS]

Some tangible positive news rather than jingoistic tub-thumping and I will. It’s not in any way more trade unless there’s some tangible improvement on what we had before unless you want the win of the currency crashing and Japanese people having greater ability to buy up our exports. Coming up with “EU red tape” given the obstacles to trade created by Brexit is just moronic.

 

[Willhoops]

eer Beth with all due respect Corbyn is a serving MP if you hadn't noticed?

And which way did he vote on the bill?

 

[ELLERS]

yeah, certainly them around and i'd stick them on an island somewhere for cheating the system.

Still i don't understand why you needed to put that example out there to defend a policy. I'm all for the UBI and capping of benefits that the tories have put in (although the implementation of it left a lot to be desired) but in this instance there really isn't a positive argument

agree I never said there was? I will say it again... I am all for free dinners for school kids but where does it all stop?

 

[Willhoops]

I remember my Mum and Dad having two jobs and us kids sharing the bikes/baths/clothes and just about everything else.

anecdotal, retracted as per Ellers ruling vs the people

 

[ELLERS]

anecdotal, retracted as per Ellers ruling vs the people

Wills stop being stupid. Go a chain yourself somewhere else. (I put it in blue for you)

 

[Quite Possibly Raving]

Some tangible positive news rather than jingoistic tub-thumping and I will. It’s not in any way more trade unless there’s some tangible improvement on what we had before unless you want the win of the currency crashing and Japanese people having greater ability to buy up our exports. Coming up with “EU red tape” given the obstacles to trade created by Brexit is just moronic.

https://fullfact.org/economy/uk-japan-trade-benefits/

The Government's own estimate is that the EU-Japan deal we currently operate under will bring more economic benefit than the new deal. All a bit finger in the air it seems, but extremely hard to argue it's significantly better than what we have (assuming one has some vague level of interest in fact rather than rhetoric).

 

[ELLERS]

And which way did he vote on the bill?

That's another question and answer. I am replying to Beths question.

 

[Willhoops]

That's another question and answer. I am replying to Beths question.

You're having an absolute mare today.