Isn’t that a good thing? If she puts the country ahead of the Tory Party for a bit we’ll have an agreement to stay in the Customs Union, which is a bit ****, but better than nothing.
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At Margaret Hodges' insistence, which in light of things since is definitely in 'you couldn't make it up' territory...
Yes, it's temporary relief, but Corbyn hasn't pressed home his advantage. The only hope of getting change to that backstop is to head for a no deal imo
The way to get rid of the need for a backstop is to agree to stay in the Customs Union.
May has just offered to talk to other party leaders, which she should have done as soon as she knew she was in a minority government in 2017.
I’m really struggling to find a comparison to how epically appallingly this whole thing has been handled. Two and a half years wasted, eye off the ball on everything else which is important, totally divided country, ****ing bravo.
I’ve steered clear of this **** for a bit but I’m ****ing angry tonight.
I’m really struggling to find a comparison to how epically appallingly this whole thing has been handled. Two and a half years wasted, eye off the ball on everything else which is important, totally divided country, ****ing bravo.
I’ve steered clear of this **** for a bit but I’m ****ing angry tonight.
But if WTO is so ****ing great why do we need ****ing trade deals? Especially if we are already in the biggest trade deal the world has ever known, with the biggest, richest, market in the world, which gives us 50 plus additional trade deals into the bargain?
No one is arguing that WTO is as good as trade deals. We can tailor them to our market. You have to remember that Brexit isn't all about the economy, although of course this is important. It's also about identity, community, borders, security etc
And you know we’ll get excellent deals because we won the war.
The Argies never really had their heart in it mind
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Gove is probably the best speakersat the dispatch box there is right now. I'm told he's an excellent Minister who listens to his staff and is very respectful to them. I can dream! To be fair though i heard the opposite from friends in his last department but then when is an education secretary ever popular?
How Gove has the front to even show his mug in the commons is beyond me his speech was a lot of rubbish he had no right to say imo
Biggest hypocrite in the house
I'd say the title of hypocrite of the house goes to David Lammy who criticised those that attribute some of the problems of young black men in gangs to absent fathers, having himself made the same point not long before.
He’s a radical minister, always with big, challenging ideas. But as with most of them (May at the Home Office excepted, fail) he doesn’t hang around long enough for the chickens to roost. Plus his political manoeuvring has been transparently inept. I remember Ken Clarke telling the story of a cabinet meeting when Gove suggested bombing Syria or somewhere at which even Liam Fox turned his eyes skywards.
Which department do you work in, if that can be revealed?
Agree let's see how committed they are when we don't give them £39b and the EU states start asking for help?
Lammy is a muppet and just about everytime he gets interviewed sounds as intelligent as Abbott.
So back on another train and missed the vote but reading this I guess May won which was always going to be the case. This now means that Comedy Corbyn has egg on his face again... Poor old Jezza he really is crap at this.
Some fab posts from Sb tonight.
One thing that P’d me off today was Justine Greening. Now being a Tory I like to support the party however in this case I won’t.
In a tv interview today she was banging on about a ’ losers vote’ ” let the people decide” she said. So the presenter said ”what about a General election to let the people decide”? She replies ” err...eer no, I don't see the point of a GE at this time”.
All she is thinking of is her job and frustrating Brexit.
Some fab posts from Sb tonight.
One thing that P’d me off today was Justine Greening. Now being a Tory I like to support the party however in this case I won’t.
In a tv interview today she was banging on about a ’ losers vote’ ” let the people decide” she said. So the presenter said ”what about a General election to let the people decide”? She replies ” err...eer no, I don't see the point of a GE at this time”.
All she is thinking of is her job and frustrating Brexit.
May has had chats with all the leaders of the opposition parties, except Labour as Corbyn declined to take part.
What an idiot, what good will refusing to have a conversation do? Probably he has nothing to say and is terrified of committing himself to something by mistake.
What an idiot, what good will refusing to have a conversation do? Probably he has nothing to say and is terrified of committing himself to something by mistake.