Off Topic The Politics Thread

[DT’s Socks]

If it happens, how do you think the EU would treat Britain? As the prodigal son returning, or as a naughty boy who needs punishing. My guess would be the latter (as was demonstrated when Cameron went to them asking for special treatment with regard to immigration).The country would need to be careful of what it wanted. Still not sure I believe all this 'Brexit is reducing by the hour' I've yet to meet a leaver who is now for remaining.

I have certainly met a few who didn’t bother to vote and now wish they had
I think the EU maybe in on it all
The current climate imo has been orchestrated with this break from Brexit news manufactured as ponder time
With an issue as big as this with a divided nation I would ask could the U.K. government afford to take a summer break ?

I say that because it’s not business as usual

You only have to look at the way business is going and it’s all in one direction imo

Haven’t seen ,heard or been involved with one promotional marketing campaign that is geared to promote the new UK after Brexit

And of course marketeers work 14 months in advance ... there is nothing out there no trend etc no uplift forecast re life after Brexit

Forward thinking design agencies and marketeers are usually onto something by now. This is the time when money is made and gambles are made for trends to grow

As said before all we have is the factual evidence that business is prepared to move away. The confusion and uncertainty is all we seem to have.

I do not think the EU will not treat the U.K. as a naughty school boy. The analogy is crazy and comes from fantasy imo from made up Brexiteers who view the EU as some sort of big brother ... that is stupidly imo

Why? Because we are the EU currently we are still a part of it. The 52/48 sent a message to the entire world. The way in which the EU operates has to consider reform. I am beginning to believe Brexit was the instrument to do this and this is the real battle. It’s whipped up anti EU feelings by plugging into U.K. culture who effectively swallowed that without knowing anything and then declared war.

I am convinced this is all theatre

Ask any Brexiteer what’s the first step after we leave ... nothing no one has a clue

The No Deal is just a threat imo and anyone who evens thinks it’s a good idea needs to explain it.

 

[bc7]

I have certainly met a few who didn’t bother to vote and now wish they had
I think the EU maybe in on it all
The current climate imo has been orchestrated with this break from Brexit news manufactured as ponder time
With an issue as big as this with a divided nation I would ask could the U.K. government afford to take a summer break ?

I say that because it’s not business as usual

You only have to look at the way business is going and it’s all in one direction imo

Haven’t seen ,heard or been involved with one promotional marketing campaign that is geared to promote the new UK after Brexit

And of course marketeers work 14 months in advance ... there is nothing out there no trend etc no uplift forecast re life after Brexit

Forward thinking design agencies and marketeers are usually onto something by now. This is the time when money is made and gambles are made for trends to grow

As said before all we have is the factual evidence that business is prepared to move away. The confusion and uncertainty is all we seem to have.

I do not think the EU will not treat the U.K. as a naughty school boy. The analogy is crazy and comes from fantasy imo from made up Brexiteers who view the EU as some sort of big brother ... that is stupidly imo

Why? Because we are the EU currently we are still a part of it. The 52/48 sent a message to the entire world. The way in which the EU operates has to consider reform. I am beginning to believe Brexit was the instrument to do this and this is the real battle. It’s whipped up anti EU feelings by plugging into U.K. culture who effectively swallowed that without knowing anything and then declared war.

I am convinced this is all theatre

Ask any Brexiteer what’s the first step after we leave ... nothing no one has a clue

The No Deal is just a threat imo and anyone who evens thinks it’s a good idea needs to explain it.

Except I see no desire to reform so the whipped up anti EU feelings are still there. Unless there is a desire to reform that hasn't been disclosed yet.

 

[Staines R's]

Except I see no desire to reform so the whipped up anti EU feelings are still there. Unless there is a desire to reform that hasn't been disclosed yet.

Why would the unelected fat cats that pollute the EU monster want to reform ?
They’ll still be wanting their mega pensions to be paid......can’t see them willing to give any of that up.

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

Except I see no desire to reform so the whipped up anti EU feelings are still there. Unless there is a desire to reform that hasn't been disclosed yet.

Mate. The EU could be a perfectly functioning perfectly efficient machine and you’d still have large swathes of our society wanting out and blaming all their ills on it. The right wing press have long seen to that.

 

[Staines R's]

Mate. The EU could be a perfectly functioning perfectly efficient machine and you’d still have large swathes of our society wanting out and blaming all their ills on it. The right wing press have long seen to that.

The problem for a lot of people wanting to leave is that it ISN’T and probably, in my opinion, never will be an efficient machine.....but more of a vessel for a good few to get very rich.

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

The problem for a lot of people wanting to leave is that it ISN’T and probably, in my opinion, never will be an efficient machine.....but more of a vessel for a good few to get very rich.

I sincerely doubt that’s the genuine motivation for many Leavers. It also sounds a lot like our own government.

 

[Staines R's]

I sincerely doubt that’s the genuine motivation for many Leavers. It also sounds a lot like our own government.

I disagree with your first point but totally agree with your second.

 

[Sooperhoop]

Westminster in lockdown after a car crashes/is driven into the barriers outside Parliament. Sounds like there are injuries, man arrested.

If it’s terrorism, doing it during summer recess may give an indication of the intelligence involved.

7.30 on an August morning with little traffic or pedestrians and this thicko drives straight into a heavy metal barrier, not the sharpest tool in the box...

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[DT’s Socks]

Why would the unelected fat cats that pollute the EU monster want to reform ?
They’ll still be wanting their mega pensions to be paid......can’t see them willing to give any of that up.

Monster Fat Cats ?

The City of London
The home of the fattest monster cats in the world yet we can blame the EU for anything or everything ?

We prefer it seems to single out the EU as a evil tyrant. How do you think that is logical and please give us all evidence of the pollution within the EU

For every corrupt EU politican I will match 10 fold by naming corrupt English MPs

The fact is Brexit is a protest feeling no much more imo Same as people pick on Ryanair not EasyJet McDonald’s not Burger King
Trump not Bush

Brexiteers evidence please
Self enquiry

Immigration is the only thing left as I see it
It’s been proven this is going to cost a lot of money ... and all for what? A dream that the U.K. will suddenly unite on 52/48 split and suddenly prosper

Where’s the plan?

Fat cats ffs Monsters ?

I expect Brexiteers to come out and say how wonderful our politicans are

 

[DT’s Socks]

The problem for a lot of people wanting to leave is that it ISN’T and probably, in my opinion, never will be an efficient machine.....but more of a vessel for a good few to get very rich.

You can guarantee there is money to be made by the rich via Brexit totally agree
In fact some will be betting for or against it and probably both

 

[Staines R's]

Monster Fat Cats ?

The City of London
The home of the fattest monster cats in the world yet we can blame the EU for anything or everything ?

We prefer it seems to single out the EU as a evil tyrant. How do you think that is logical and please give us all evidence of the pollution within the EU

For every corrupt EU politican I will match 10 fold by naming corrupt English MPs

The fact is Brexit is a protest feeling no much more imo Same as people pick on Ryanair not EasyJet McDonald’s not Burger King
Trump not Bush

Brexiteers evidence please
Self enquiry

Immigration is the only thing left as I see it
It’s been proven this is going to cost a lot of money ... and all for what? A dream that the U.K. will suddenly unite on 52/48 split and suddenly prosper

Where’s the plan?

Fat cats ffs Monsters ?

I expect Brexiteers to come out and say how wonderful our politicans are

Paul, just ‘cos I despise the likes of Kinnock and all his family doesn’t mean I love our politicians.
The thing is I had an opportunity to vote on leaving the EU, which pays millions to the like of Barnier, Kinnock and Juncker.....which I took with open arms. Maybe one day my great grandkids will get a vote on reforming our corrupt government.....at this present time I haven’t.

You’re not gonna change my mind......like I’ll never change yours.

 

[sb_73]

Paul, just ‘cos I despise the likes of Kinnock and all his family doesn’t mean I love our politicians.
The thing is I had an opportunity to vote on leaving the EU, which pays millions to the like of Barnier, Kinnock and Juncker.....which I took with open arms. Maybe one day my great grandkids will get a vote on reforming our corrupt government.....at this present time I haven’t.

You’re not gonna change my mind......like I’ll never change yours.

Juncker, the top paid EU man, is on about £343k a year on today’s exchange rates, including copious allowances. It’s a lot. I despise Juncker and his little aggressive sidekick, everything would have been easier without him. But compared to a CEO in industry/finance his income is laughable. If you think he’s supplementing it through corruption, that’s another question.

A championship footballer on £10k a week gets £520k a year.

Not trying to change your mind or start an argument, just providing the facts.

 

[GoldhawkRoad]

Juncker, the top paid EU man, is on about £343k a year on today’s exchange rates, including copious allowances. It’s a lot. I despise Juncker and his little aggressive sidekick, everything would have been easier without him. But compared to a CEO in industry/finance his income is laughable. If you think he’s supplementing it through corruption, that’s another question.

A championship footballer on £10k a week gets £520k a year.

Not trying to change your mind or start an argument, just providing the facts.

How long would the CEO of an important plc last if he was getting so drunk during a working day that he could not stand?

 

[BobbyD]

How long would the CEO of an important plc last if he was getting so drunk during a working day that he could not stand?

Probably happens every other day of the week. Everyone knows CEOs don't actually do anything

 

[Staines R's]

Juncker, the top paid EU man, is on about £343k a year on today’s exchange rates, including copious allowances. It’s a lot. I despise Juncker and his little aggressive sidekick, everything would have been easier without him. But compared to a CEO in industry/finance his income is laughable. If you think he’s supplementing it through corruption, that’s another question.

A championship footballer on £10k a week gets £520k a year.

Not trying to change your mind or start an argument, just providing the facts.

Stan, if I get a vote that means I have a say on a footballers obscene wages then I think you know which way I’d go.
Sadly I never will.

 

[sb_73]

How long would the CEO of an important plc last if he was getting so drunk during a working day that he could not stand?

Probably happens every other day of the week. Everyone knows CEOs don't actually do anything

I had one who we were sure was a corpse he did so little.

 

[GoldhawkRoad]

I had one who we were sure was a corpse he did so little.

Which CEO's behave like that and are not sacked? They have to make a good profit and are answerable to shareholders. Junckers is unaccountable and has a massive army of bureaucrats making decisions and doing the work.

 

[GoldhawkRoad]

Probably happens every other day of the week. Everyone knows CEOs don't actually do anything

Sorry, meaningless post.

 

[sb_73]

Stan, if I get a vote that means I have a say on a footballers obscene wages then I think you know which way I’d go.
Sadly I never will.

Thing is Stainsey, what you want is a full on, root and branch revolution.

I actually have more sympathy with that position than leaving the EU. I used to live in that house myself. But as I have said before your stance on Brexit is entirely consistent with what I know of your political leanings. You just end up with some strange bedfellows.

 

[Staines R's]

Thing is Stainsey, what you want is a full on, root and branch revolution.

I actually have more sympathy with that position than leaving the EU. I used to live in that house myself. But as I have said before your stance on Brexit is entirely consistent with what I know of your political leanings. You just end up with some strange bedfellows.

That my friend is the nail being hit firmly on the head.

Little steps......