The EU debate - Part III

[Stan]

", according to the poll commissioned by Open Britain, a successor to the “Remain” campaign that’s now lobbying to soften the terms of the U.K.’s EU divorce."


YouGov surveyed 1,615 adults in Britain online on Dec. 5 and 6, including 690 “Leave” voters. Respondents were asked what was the maximum amount of money they personally would be willing to give up in order for the U.K. to leave the EU.

The poll found that 88 percent of “Leave” voters would vote for Brexit in a repeat of the referendum, while 92 percent of “Remain” voters would replicate their vote.

So no over all change really.

How much would you be prepared to give up a month?

 

[NSIS]

", according to the poll commissioned by Open Britain, a successor to the “Remain” campaign that’s now lobbying to soften the terms of the U.K.’s EU divorce."


YouGov surveyed 1,615 adults in Britain online on Dec. 5 and 6, including 690 “Leave” voters. Respondents were asked what was the maximum amount of money they personally would be willing to give up in order for the U.K. to leave the EU.

The poll found that 88 percent of “Leave” voters would vote for Brexit in a repeat of the referendum, while 92 percent of “Remain” voters would replicate their vote.

So no over all change really.

Well, the survey I posted says differently!.

It makes no sense to say in one breath, I'm not prepared to be worse off, and in another say I'd vote leave again.

Now, it looks pretty certain you're going to be worse off, which is it?...

 

[DMD]

How much would you be prepared to give up a month?

Loads. The EU would have been taking it off us anyway, but any pain for me will be relatively short term, and it will make a better place for future generations. The second world war cost a lot, lot more to save us from a dictatorship running Europe..

For me, it's almost irrelevant anyway, those at the top still seem to be trying to ignore or gloss over it, but more and more are waking up to the fact that their dream is over. People are happy to trade and share, but the dreams of an EU government can **** right off, no matter what the financial cost.

 

[DMD]

Well, the survey I posted says differently!.

It makes no sense to say in one breath, I'm not prepared to be worse off, and in another say I'd vote leave again.

Now, it looks pretty certain you're going to be worse off, which is it?...

That's a quote from the article you posted. Didn't you read it all?

 

[Archers Road]

Loads. The EU would have been taking it off us anyway, but any pain for me will be relatively short term, and it will make a better place for future generations. The second world war cost a lot, lot more to save us from a dictatorship running Europe..

For me, it's almost irrelevant anyway, those at the top still seem to be trying to ignore or gloss over it, but more and more are waking up to the fact that their dream is over. People are happy to trade and share, but the dreams of an EU government can **** right off, no matter what the financial cost.

Have you now completely given up trying to make any sense at all?

 

[NSIS]

That's a quote from the article you posted. Didn't you read it all?

Yes, as I say, it makes no sense. If 49% say they're not prepared to be worse off to leave the EU, why would you vote leave again if you knew you would be worse off?

 

[Stan]

Loads. The EU would have been taking it off us anyway, but any pain for me will be relatively short term, and it will make a better place for future generations. The second world war cost a lot, lot more to save us from a dictatorship running Europe..

For me, it's almost irrelevant anyway, those at the top still seem to be trying to ignore or gloss over it, but more and more are waking up to the fact that their dream is over. People are happy to trade and share, but the dreams of an EU government can **** right off, no matter what the financial cost.

How much?

I assume you are single with no kids. You certainly don't seem to have much on at the weekends.

 

[NSIS]

Have you now completely given up trying to make any sense at all?

He's persuaded himself that there will be s federal EU Gvt.

There won't, the people of Europe would never vote for it...

 

[DMD]

Yes, as I say, it makes no sense. If 49% say they're not prepared to be worse off to leave the EU, why would you vote leave again if you knew you would be worse off?

You said your survey says different, but they're from the same article. I guess part of it comes down to believing the remain campaign, who have a record of deceit or yougov.

Most knew they'd be worse off. The EU are a spiteful organisation and were always going to get arsey. They have to, or others unhappy with the dictatorship would follow us.

 

[DMD]

He's persuaded himself that there will be s federal EU Gvt.

There won't, the people of Europe would never vote for it...

I didn't persuade myself, I looked at the stated aims of those involved in the EU (no, I'm not posting the links again) . You're very naive if you believe it isn't their goal.

 

[NSIS]

You said your survey says different, but they're from the same article. I guess part of it comes down to believing the remain campaign, who have a record of deceit or yougov.

Most knew they'd be worse off. The EU are a spiteful organisation and were always going to get arsey. They have to, or others unhappy with the dictatorship would follow us.

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The remain campaign have a record of deceit??

And of course, Nigel,Boris and Co never told any giant porkies at all?

Simple fact is, people will be worse off. They lied!!...

 

[Tobes]

The poll found that 88 percent of “Leave” voters would vote for Brexit in a repeat of the referendum, while 92 percent of “Remain” voters would replicate their vote.

So no over all change really.

No change? Just the 4%, which just happens to be the margin of 'victory'

49 percent of “Leave” voters aren’t willing to lose any money, while 11 percent said they would be willing to give up 100 pounds ($126) or more a month. The remaining 40 percent said they would not be willing to sacrifice more than 50 pounds a month

A pre-referendum Treasury analysis that examined three models for Brexit found that the nature of any eventual deal will affect the level of economic damage a withdrawal inflicts on Britain. A Norway-style deal that retains full access to the single market would knock 2,600 pounds off predicted gross domestic product per household in 2030, compared with the 5,200-pound hit from a so-called hard Brexit that reverts Britain to World Trade Organization rules with its associated tariffs on trade.

So 49% of those who voted for it aren't prepared to be a penny worse off, 40% said they'd take no more than £50 a month, and the remaining 11% said they'd lose £100 a month. Best case scenario is £216 a month.

Stupid ****s.

 

[DMD]

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The remain campaign have a record of deceit??

And of course, Nigel,Boris and Co never told any giant porkies at all?

Simple fact is, people will be worse off. They lied!!...

Yep, the remain campaign has a record of deceit.

Some things may end up getting more expensive, but they may well have done anyway, it's altered the timing, but not everything is the fault of brexit, and a fair amount of what is, is due to those in the EU desperate to protect their autocracy.

 

[DMD]

No change? Just the 4%, which just happens to be the margin of 'victory'

49 percent of “Leave” voters aren’t willing to lose any money, while 11 percent said they would be willing to give up 100 pounds ($126) or more a month. The remaining 40 percent said they would not be willing to sacrifice more than 50 pounds a month

A pre-referendum Treasury analysis that examined three models for Brexit found that the nature of any eventual deal will affect the level of economic damage a withdrawal inflicts on Britain. A Norway-style deal that retains full access to the single market would knock 2,600 pounds off predicted gross domestic product per household in 2030, compared with the 5,200-pound hit from a so-called hard Brexit that reverts Britain to World Trade Organization rules with its associated tariffs on trade.

So 49% of those who voted for it aren't prepared to be a penny worse off, 40% said they'd take no more than £50 a month, and the remaining 11% said they'd lose £100 a month. Best case scenario is £216 a month.

Stupid ****s.

So what are YOU doing about it?

 

[Tobes]

Most knew they'd be worse off. The EU are a spiteful organisation and were always going to get arsey. They have to, or others unhappy with the dictatorship would follow us.

Nearly half of them didn't according to that survey

40% of the remainder thought £50 a month was the maximum they'd be prepared to lose out.

Yet more evidence that the Leave vote was largely ****ing clueless as to the consequence's of Brexit

 

[DMD]

Nearly half of them didn't according to that survey

40% of the remainder thought £50 a month was the maximum they'd be prepared to lose out.

Yet more evidence that the Leave vote was largely ****ing clueless as to the consequence's of Brexit

And again, as you believe that to be true and a problem, what are YOU doing about it?

 

[Tobes]

So what are YOU doing about it?

What am I doing about it? I'm not in a position to do anything about it am I?

And what is the relevance of that question to my actual post?

 

[Tobes]

And again, as you believe that to be true and a problem, what are YOU doing about it?

What can I do about 89% of the Leave vote seemingly being clueless about the fiscal consequences of their vote?

 

[NSIS]

Yep, the remain campaign has a record of deceit.

Some things may end up getting more expensive, but they may well have done anyway, it's altered the timing, but not everything is the fault of brexit, and a fair amount of what is, is due to those in the EU desperate to protect their autocracy.

What's happening to the U.K. Economy right now can be laid directly at the door of Brexit.

The rest of your claim is just nonsense!...

 

[DMD]

What am I doing about it? I'm not in a position to do anything about it am I?

And what is the relevance of that question to my actual post?

It's relevant because, I'm reasonably happy with things, but you're clearly not.

If I was as angry and unhappy as you, I would do a bit more than you are doing, which seems to be limited to trying to claim you're brighter than everyone else, but offering little evidence to support the claim.