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The EU debate - Part III

Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by Jürgenmeiʃter, Sep 6, 2016.

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  1. Stan

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    How much would you be prepared to give up a month?
     
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  2. NSIS

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    Well, the survey I posted says differently!.

    It makes no sense to say in one breath, I'm not prepared to be worse off, and in another say I'd vote leave again.

    Now, it looks pretty certain you're going to be worse off, which is it?...
     
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  3. DMD

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    Loads. The EU would have been taking it off us anyway, but any pain for me will be relatively short term, and it will make a better place for future generations. The second world war cost a lot, lot more to save us from a dictatorship running Europe..

    For me, it's almost irrelevant anyway, those at the top still seem to be trying to ignore or gloss over it, but more and more are waking up to the fact that their dream is over. People are happy to trade and share, but the dreams of an EU government can **** right off, no matter what the financial cost.
     
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  4. DMD

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    That's a quote from the article you posted. Didn't you read it all?
     
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  5. Archers Road

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    Have you now completely given up trying to make any sense at all?
     
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  6. NSIS

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    Yes, as I say, it makes no sense. If 49% say they're not prepared to be worse off to leave the EU, why would you vote leave again if you knew you would be worse off?
     
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  7. Stan

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    How much?

    I assume you are single with no kids. You certainly don't seem to have much on at the weekends.
     
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  8. NSIS

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    He's persuaded himself that there will be s federal EU Gvt.

    There won't, the people of Europe would never vote for it...
     
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  9. DMD

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    You said your survey says different, but they're from the same article. I guess part of it comes down to believing the remain campaign, who have a record of deceit or yougov.

    Most knew they'd be worse off. The EU are a spiteful organisation and were always going to get arsey. They have to, or others unhappy with the dictatorship would follow us.
     
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    I didn't persuade myself, I looked at the stated aims of those involved in the EU (no, I'm not posting the links again) . You're very naive if you believe it isn't their goal.
     
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    <laugh>.

    The remain campaign have a record of deceit??

    And of course, Nigel,Boris and Co never told any giant porkies at all?

    Simple fact is, people will be worse off. They lied!!...
     
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  12. Tobes

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    No change? Just the 4%, which just happens to be the margin of 'victory' <doh>

    49 percent of “Leave” voters aren’t willing to lose any money, while 11 percent said they would be willing to give up 100 pounds ($126) or more a month. The remaining 40 percent said they would not be willing to sacrifice more than 50 pounds a month

    A pre-referendum Treasury analysis that examined three models for Brexit found that the nature of any eventual deal will affect the level of economic damage a withdrawal inflicts on Britain. A Norway-style deal that retains full access to the single market would knock 2,600 pounds off predicted gross domestic product per household in 2030, compared with the 5,200-pound hit from a so-called hard Brexit that reverts Britain to World Trade Organization rules with its associated tariffs on trade.


    So 49% of those who voted for it aren't prepared to be a penny worse off, 40% said they'd take no more than £50 a month, and the remaining 11% said they'd lose £100 a month. Best case scenario is £216 a month.

    Stupid ****s.
     
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  13. DMD

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    Yep, the remain campaign has a record of deceit.

    Some things may end up getting more expensive, but they may well have done anyway, it's altered the timing, but not everything is the fault of brexit, and a fair amount of what is, is due to those in the EU desperate to protect their autocracy.
     
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  14. DMD

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    So what are YOU doing about it?
     
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    Nearly half of them didn't according to that survey <doh>

    40% of the remainder thought £50 a month was the maximum they'd be prepared to lose out.

    Yet more evidence that the Leave vote was largely ****ing clueless as to the consequence's of Brexit
     
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  16. DMD

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    And again, as you believe that to be true and a problem, what are YOU doing about it?
     
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  17. Tobes

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    What am I doing about it? I'm not in a position to do anything about it am I?

    And what is the relevance of that question to my actual post?
     
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  18. Tobes

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    What can I do about 89% of the Leave vote seemingly being clueless about the fiscal consequences of their vote?
     
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    What's happening to the U.K. Economy right now can be laid directly at the door of Brexit.

    The rest of your claim is just nonsense!...
     
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  20. DMD

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    It's relevant because, I'm reasonably happy with things, but you're clearly not.

    If I was as angry and unhappy as you, I would do a bit more than you are doing, which seems to be limited to trying to claim you're brighter than everyone else, but offering little evidence to support the claim.
     
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