The EU debate - Part III

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Cool brexit story Bro.

 

My question was quite an innocent one.

 

We've posted plenty of fact and opinion this morning, and your sole response was to ask what I was personally doing about Brexit

No challenge, no input, no discussion, no counter, nothing.

Vacuous

 

We can smooth over any issues with countries we may have historical problems with, by sending in our brilliant Foreign Secretary - the master of diplomacy and tact

 

Your last paragraph is something we can agree on.

 

You didn't post facts, you posted predictions from many of the same people that have been consistently wrong so far.

Vacuous seems an apt sign off from you, given you'be hoovered up any crumb of negativity in the desperate hop you were not wrong.

All in all, you do little but whine.

 

Why do you keep doing this to yourself?

49 percent of “Leave” voters aren’t willing to lose any money, while 11 percent said they would be willing to give up 100 pounds ($126) or more a month. The remaining 40 percent said they would not be willing to sacrifice more than 50 pounds a month

That my old chum is a fact, presented from the latest poll on the subject.

It formed the basis for my posts on the subject, which you completely swerved and posted a ridiculous question in response to.

Why don't you actually take part in the debate, give a ****ing opinion for once, otherwise what is the point in you posting here? Seriously?

 

Oh dear, oh dear. They're not 'facts' stumpy.

Should I post the pre-referendum and pre-election polls to show you why?

 

There's a difference between a poll predicting an outcome of a future event and a poll asking people their views on an event that has already happened.

 

And back to the faux insults

They're the results of a poll, the poll happened, the results have been published, the results of the poll are factual, not fiction

The margin of error is about +/- 3% on a poll of that scale.

if you want to take issue with the validity of the poll then crack on, explain why it's so vastly wrong?

But as it stands it shows that around 89% of Leave voters wouldn't be happy to lose more than £50 a month as a result of Brexit, with nearly half not prepared to lose anything.

The best case scenario predictions from the Treasury for a 'soft' Brexit put the average net household loss at £216 a month, with 'hard' Brexit at £433 a month.

So it raises 2 questions;

1. At what point does this fully dawn on the Leave vote?

2. What happens politically when it does?

 

Yeah the Ashcroft post referendum polls explain why that happened - as nearly 10% said they made their mind up at the ****ing polling station

 

Sounds like democracy has spoken and given a mandate to the elected Government then.

All it needs is for the remoaners to stop their whining, stalling and creating and let them get on with it. It's not as though the remoaners offer any solutions, it's just whines.

 

It's not a mandate, it was an advisory referendum. The Gvt chooses to treat it as a mandate.

And those of us who have genuine concerns about the future of the U.K. Economy after this **** up, will continue to try and get the best outcome from the situation as possible. The Gvt will be checked and blalanced at every available opportunity.

Despite the incompetence of this Gvt and the ****wittery of Boris, Fox, and Davis..

 

Way to avoid the questions asked

Whether what happened was democratic is a debatable point in itself.

It seems that the new political age means that our politicians can tell the populous anything at all in order to gain their vote, and then run away from the promises the next day. It's happened here with Brexit and in the US with Trump.

Putting that aside, the point remains. If Brexit starts hitting the average Joe who voted for it in the pocket, who is he going to blame and what will the political fallout of that be? As the polls make it obvious that he's not expecting it to be anything of real note.

The remainers (and many of the Leavers) have offered a solution, don't leave the single market.

 

People will do what they always do when the economy tanks; they'll blame immigrants and poor people.

 

Clearly, the best thing all round is for the remoaners to stop their stalling tactics, that are only delaying the inevitable as all sides agree we're leaving, and let the negotiations begin.

The demands for certain conditions are meaningless waffle. We're not the only side involved in the negotiations.

 

They aren't stalling tactics. People have legitimate concerns about what Brexit will mean and don't trust May to deliver the best possible Brexit. If she had just been left to it she'd be pressing ahead with hard Brexit. Brexit will and should happen but why have an issue with people expressing what they feel the priority should be? You don't seem to have any issue with those who prioritise reducing immigration.

 

In a democracy, it is important for everyone to have their voices heard, particularly during what is likely to be the most challenging set of circumstances any UK government has been faced with since WWII.

It is therefore vital that the voice of common sense, as well as the views of 48% of the electorate who voted to Remain, are not completely drowned out by tub thumping jingoists and nut jobs like Barmy Boris, David Davis, Liam Fox, John Redwood, and other assorted idiots (idiots like you, and your mental mate Kitchen Kunt).