The EU debate - Part III

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It is possible then that immigrants will be required if UK workers are not skilled enough.

Absolutely, not sure why you have mentioned this with regards to immigration, as I had not made any reference to where these skills come from. My comment was about improving skill levels across the board and the potential for improvements to our social fabric.
 
May might pull off a masterstroke and be the best PM of all time.


And Santa Claus might come tumbling down my chimney with the keys to my new Ferrari that he's got me for Xmas!....
Tiddler will skim read this and mistakenly work himself up into a frenzy about Ferraris and swimming pools.
 
Absolutely, not sure why you have mentioned this with regards to immigration, as I had not made any reference to where these skills come from. My comment was about improving skill levels across the board and the potential for improvements to our social fabric.
In context of the whole conversation around whether we can replace EU workers with unemployed UK workers it makes perfectly good sense to mention it.

Even if you didn't.
 
If you want to somehow turn it into a immigration story, crack on.
It wasn't what I was implying, so stop trying to put words into my mouth.
I don't and I haven't.
Stop being so precious and realise your comments come at the end of a discussion relating to replacing EU workers with UK workers.
 
Absolutely, not sure why you have mentioned this with regards to immigration, as I had not made any reference to where these skills come from. My comment was about improving skill levels across the board and the potential for improvements to our social fabric.
We are not exactly renowned for skill training in the UK anymore. We have become a 'be a bricklayer/plumber/electrician etc in six weeks' country. The term engineer is used far too loosely by those who are not qualified e.g. washing machine engineer, when they are technicians.
I only mentioned the need to bring in non-British workers for the benefit of others on this thread who do not want any immigration at all.
 
Recent votes should be seen for the wake up call that they clearly are. The establishment, and some individuals need to listen to that, as it really is the key issue. Arrogance and a 'we know better than those idiots" seems to be a factor with those that choose to ignore it.

Recent votes show that Politics has been dumbed down to the level of an X Factor vote.

It appears that politicians integrity is a thing of the past. Tell the electorate a complete crock of ****, get elected and turn turtle on the promises made. So sorry, people falling for it, are ****ing idiots de facto

The Brexit vote has seen nearly half the nation agog at the decision made by the other half. That's not the establishment, that's half the ****ing populous!
 
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We are not exactly renowned for skill training in the UK anymore. We have become a 'be a bricklayer/plumber/electrician etc in six weeks' country. The term engineer is used far too loosely by those who are not qualified e.g. washing machine engineer, when they are technicians.
I only mentioned the need to bring in non-British workers for the benefit of others on this thread who do not want any immigration at all.

As a fully "timed served" electrician (a four year apprenticeship) and then many years of training, further education (to degree level), to be even considered an engineer, I totally agree with your sentiments.
I understand where your coming from with regards to immigration, but it wasn't what I meant or where I want to go with the conversation.
 
I don't and I haven't.
Stop being so precious and realise your comments come at the end of a discussion relating to replacing EU workers with UK workers.

I'm not being precious and stop trying to to interpret my comments to suit your own argument. If I had wanted to make it an immigration comment, I would have done so. Paul made a comment which I answered directly.
 
A citizen orders a Trabant car. The salesman tells him to come back to pick it up in nine years. The customer asks: "Shall I come back in the morning or in the evening then?"
"You're joking, aren't you?"
"No, not at all. It's just that I need to know whether the plumber can come at 3pm or not."
 
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I'm not being precious and stop trying to to interpret my comments to suit your own argument. If I had wanted to make it an immigration comment, I would have done so. Paul made a comment which I answered directly.

What is my argument?

I haven't made an argument.
Pauls comment was in context of a wider discussion and all I have said is that I understand why he made it in light of earlier comments being made.
You appear to be arguing with me for the sake of it.
 
Early in the morning, Honecker arrives at his office and opens his window. He greets the Sun, saying: "Good morning, dear Sun!" / "Good morning, dear Erich!"
Honecker works, and then at noon he heads to the window and says: "Good day, dear Sun!" / "Good day, dear Erich!"
In the evening, Erich calls it a day, and heads once more to the window, and says: "Good evening, dear Sun!" Hearing nothing, Honecker says again: "Good evening, dear Sun! What's the matter?" The sun retorts: "Kiss my arse. I'm in the West now!"
 
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