The EU debate - Part III

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Who Am I said:
Can you show any evidence of these "others on this thread who do not want any immigration at all" actually existing, or are they just a figment of yours and other like minded imbeciles imaginations?

Thanks in advance. <ok>
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I give you Kustard and Zlatan. Me and the others are definitely not the imbeciles here. You should look elsewhere, perhaps starting with a mirror
 
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DMD said:
We could have a system where people take turns to be PM, and to save money on bodyguards when they step down, we'd only know them by a letter of the alphabet.

I reckon there's a few on here that would be suspected of being PM T.
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You could have a go, and they could call you TWAT!....
 
pieguts said:
you seem to have a desire to constantly have the last word.
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Everyone else on this thread will know this to be untrue. The hypocrisy of this claim is however, very telling and proven on multiple occasions. As was the claim you made about not handling being challenged, which this little chat has shown.
 
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steveninaster1 said:
Everyone else on this thread will know this to be untrue. The hypocrisy of this claim is however, very telling and proven on multiple occasions. As was the claim you made about not handling being challenged, which this little chat has shown.
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What are you now babbling on about?
I'm open to challenge, but at least challenge me on something I said, not your assumption around something I said. The fact that I have to keep repeating myself is telling though.
 
paultheplug said:
I give you Kustard and Zlatan. Me and the others are definitely not the imbeciles here. You should look elsewhere, perhaps starting with a mirror
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Have either of them said that we should not allow any immigrants into the country? I doubt you can substantiate your claim, but they are mentalists IF they have.

I think you are creating lies to justify your spouting bollocks tbh. A lesson from the snide & tobes no doubt <doh>
 
Who Am I said:
Have either of them said that we should not allow any immigrants into the country? I doubt you can substantiate your claim, but they are mentalists IF they have.

I think you are creating lies to justify your spouting bollocks tbh. A lesson from the snide & tobes no doubt <doh>
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We should allow some it when needed but not the riff raff <ok>
 
Who Am I said:
Have either of them said that we should not allow any immigrants into the country? I doubt you can substantiate your claim, but they are mentalists IF they have.

I think you are creating lies to justify your spouting bollocks tbh. A lesson from the snide & tobes no doubt <doh>
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I am not going back over 60.000 plus posts to point out where those two have said it, but trust me they have. They may claim otherwise but occasionally they let their true feelings out
 
Tobes said:
I agree with the first 2 sentences.

However, I disagree with the rest. As I think whilst many had misgivings about aspects of the EU they took the view that being in it (and notably the single market) was more beneficial than leaving it. Radical change within the EU was never on the menu.

The idea that a Remain vote would have been seen as a green light for increased federalism is assumptive, a narrow win for Remain could have equally sent out a message that the EU needed to take heed of the views of the people. The UK was one of the constant brakes on the federalist ideals, as we had the power of veto, without us it may be taken as a green light by the federalists. Albeit, I still maintain that there's little desire for it amongst the majority of the major players across the EU.
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Even though the vote was to leave, those in the middle of the EU are still pushing towards federalism, with things like the new defense policy as an example. So there's zero chance that even a close remain vote would have made them think. There's still a desire for it from the key players, they're just waiting for a better opportunity, and a remain vote would have moved them nearer to that.

Many didn't mention the single market as issues that they felt were wrong with the EU, and people such as Corbyn etc were certainly against the existing structure of the EU arguing in favour of changes from within. There are plenty of other member states that want changes, but they're unable to make them from within, and saw us as a key ally.
 
DMD said:
Even though the vote was to leave, those in the middle of the EU are still pushing towards federalism, with things like the new defense policy as an example. So there's zero chance that even a close remain vote would have made them think. There's still a desire for it from the key players, they're just waiting for a better opportunity, and a remain vote would have moved them nearer to that.

Many didn't mention the single market as issues that they felt were wrong with the EU, and people such as Corbyn etc were certainly against the existing structure of the EU arguing in favour of changes from within. There are plenty of oter member states that want changes, but they're unable to make them from within.
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But the remainers said we can make changes from within, I guess they lied then.
 
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Who Am I said:
Have either of them said that we should not allow any immigrants into the country? I doubt you can substantiate your claim, but they are mentalists IF they have.

I think you are creating lies to justify your spouting bollocks tbh. A lesson from the snide & tobes no doubt <doh>
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Given that Zlatan advocates a white breeding programme inspired by Hitler. I don't think he's likely to be the most tolerant towards immigration

Kustard made so many racist posts he created a new account to try and hide from what he'd said. Again, a bloke who calls the entirety of Islam 'pig ****ers' and says he'd only live in a white Anglo Saxon community, is hardly an advocate of immigration and multiculturalism.

Then there's Pete - the hypocrite that's married to a Pole, who takes his lead on immigration from the Daily Nazi.
 
DMD said:
Even though the vote was to leave, those in the middle of the EU are still pushing towards federalism, with things like the new defense policy as an example. So there's zero chance that even a close remain vote would have made them think. There's still a desire for it from the key players, they're just waiting for a better opportunity, and a remain vote would have moved them nearer to that.

Many didn't mention the single market as issues that they felt were wrong with the EU, and people such as Corbyn etc were certainly against the existing structure of the EU arguing in favour of changes from within. There are plenty of oter member states that want changes, but they're unable to make them from within.
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It's pie in the sky. And a remain vote is in no way a signal towards acquiescence to a federal Europe. That's just bollocks!...

When it gets to the point that even Juncker admits there's no appetite for it, it's a non starter.

The people of Europe would never vote for it.
 
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